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The Senator Discusses Our Offensive Issues
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:45 am
Great read for those who want to take the time.
The Senator
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It’s all about players beating players. Nothing about play design or offensive philosophy. What all that should tell you is that when it comes to designing an offense, Smart values efficiency over explosiveness. Again, there’s nothing wrong with that, per se, but it also leaves you without much to fall back on when, like Saturday, the efficiency engine sputters repeatedly.
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The offensive philosophy is about power, about winning a place. It’s not about scheming a player open. The stats back that up, too. Georgia is second in the SEC in offensive plays of 10+ yards, right there with offensive powerhouses Alabama and LSU, but change the scale to gains of 20+ yards, and the offense drops to ninth in the conference.
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:54 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Read that and made a lotta good points. We've gotta get better on offense for sure....
Defense hasn't been a prob. Still no rushing TD's allowed I think and...
Vandy -6
Murray St - 17
Arkansas St - 0
Notre Dame - 17
Tennessee - 14
South Carolina - 13
(minus pick 6).
Defense hasn't been a prob. Still no rushing TD's allowed I think and...
Vandy -6
Murray St - 17
Arkansas St - 0
Notre Dame - 17
Tennessee - 14
South Carolina - 13
(minus pick 6).
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:56 am
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:03 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Explosive plays are the most efficient. Even when we are just trying to eck out first downs someone should occasionally get loose.
Players beating their man is a sliding scale it is hard for all 11 to win. There needs to be some schematic advantage.
Players beating their man is a sliding scale it is hard for all 11 to win. There needs to be some schematic advantage.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:17 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Smart values efficiency over explosiveness.
UGA was fourth in the SEC for explosive plays (> 20 yards from scrimmage) last season, second against Power 5 teams. UGA was 1st in the SEC for explosive plays (> 20 yards) in 2017. Two big things have changed in 2019. We have a new OC and we have basically replaced the entire receiving corps. Coley may be part of the problem, but I believe that the receivers are a bigger reason for the decline so far this year. We'll see if that changes as the year goes on.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:21 pm to wdhalgren
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but I believe that the receivers are a bigger reason for the decline so far this year. We'll see if that changes as the year goes on.
The only reciever who did much in 2017 was Wims. And now all of our veteran WRs are banged up but like the Senator said, Blaylock, Pickens, Robertson, and Cager are clearly our best WRs and need to be on the field.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:27 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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The only reciever who did much in 2017 was Wims.
Rushing was our biggest contributor to explosive plays in 2017 and 2018. But we were getting better contribution from explosive plays in the passing game too (5th in the SEC in 2017, 6th in 2018, 11th in 2019), which probably helped open up the running game in those years.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:32 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Blaylock, Pickens, Robertson, and Cager
I like all of thsoe guys, but we seem to be missing the quick receivers like Hardman and Godwin. It's nice to have guys who can get open in a hurry against any kind of coverage and I'm not sure we have that right now. Maybe Kearis when he comes back fully healthy. I wouldn't mind seeing Trey Blount get a few more reps to see if he can do that too.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:49 pm to wdhalgren
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but we seem to be missing the quick receivers like Hardman and Godwin
Pretty sure that Robertson and Blaylock fit that description.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Trey Blount get a few more reps to see if he can do that too.
He's just a possession receiver/blocker imo.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:00 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Pretty sure that Robertson and Blaylock fit that description.
Blaylock seems to have the ability, but not sure if he's developed his route running to do it consistently yet. Robertson, to me anyway, has more top end than quickness. I could be wrong.
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He's just a possession receiver/blocker imo.
Maybe so. I was thinking about this recently and recalled that he had some athletic numbers from the opening finals. 4.32 shuttle and 4.52 40.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:13 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I've noticed that we aren't making the 1 v 1 plays like we are accustomed to. The type of play that turns a 5 yard gain into a 15 yarder, or a 15 yard play into a TD. This was most evident during the ND game. ND made about a dozen 1 v 1 plays that kept that game close- and made us keep making plays to keep the drive alive. Swift particularly, but it's an equal opportunity issue.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:45 pm to WorkinDawg
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The type of play that turns a 5 yard gain into a 15 yarder, or a 15 yard play into a TD.
Especially on the run plays. I feel like Swift and Zeus go down on first contact or get tripped up pretty easily.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:52 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
So, the problem is that we have an O-line that can't really block, receivers that can't really get open or catch, and backs who can't really run? Seems like an easy fix.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 2:04 pm to FaCubeItches
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So, the problem is that we have an O-line that can't really block, receivers that can't really get open or catch, and backs who can't really run? Seems like an easy fix
That's what you took from this? Interesting
Posted on 10/14/19 at 2:39 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Not just from your post, no. But that does seem to be the collective opinion. It was a bad game - those happen from time to time. Like Dostoyevsky said: "Everything seems stupid when it fails."
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:04 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Another issue offensive I notice. Fromm/Coley does not attack the middle of the field. If they do it is almost always less then 10 yards. Almost everything is sideline oriented. I only remember one explosive play over the middle this year and that was the throw to Cager on the busted coverage against Tennessee.
I realize Fromm/Coley like to play it safe but I think this is a tendency that must be broken eventually. Need to attack the whole field.
I realize Fromm/Coley like to play it safe but I think this is a tendency that must be broken eventually. Need to attack the whole field.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:12 pm to wdhalgren
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receivers are a bigger reason for the decline so far this year.
No. Georgia will never have more talent than it has right now. Lack of Talent is the last excuse Georgia has.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:17 pm to FlexDawg
Yeah, talent isn’t a problem. Deployment of talent is the biggest issue. When it work it works but if Fromm has an off day or the OL just gets outplayed, we have no margin for error because of how we scheme our games. And now that the book is out on us, every team we play moving forward is going to try to duplicate Carolinas game plan.
So Kirby can adapt or die. Scary part is I really don’t know what he’s going to do at this point. I hope he will adapt because he does it pretty well midgame but I’m afraid he’s too stubborn to do so
So Kirby can adapt or die. Scary part is I really don’t know what he’s going to do at this point. I hope he will adapt because he does it pretty well midgame but I’m afraid he’s too stubborn to do so
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:24 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Thought.
Not having a guy you are confident throwing a 50/50 ball to. Maybe one of these new wr's will become that, but not yet, apparently. If they are covered, they don't get thrown to.
Receivers having the freedom to change their route on the run, based on how the d is covering him, and being hive-minded with the QB. Example- playcall has you running a curl route, but after the snap the safety leaves the middle open, you run post. Qb sees safety coming up and knows receiver is on post route now instead of curl. There's a million combinations of this. I think the veteran receivers did more of this, but new guys aren't there yet, just running whatever route is called.
Not having a guy you are confident throwing a 50/50 ball to. Maybe one of these new wr's will become that, but not yet, apparently. If they are covered, they don't get thrown to.
Receivers having the freedom to change their route on the run, based on how the d is covering him, and being hive-minded with the QB. Example- playcall has you running a curl route, but after the snap the safety leaves the middle open, you run post. Qb sees safety coming up and knows receiver is on post route now instead of curl. There's a million combinations of this. I think the veteran receivers did more of this, but new guys aren't there yet, just running whatever route is called.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 3:31 pm to FlexDawg
We have talent at receiver but because it’s young Smart and co would rather rotate in senior screw ups like Simmons and landers.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 4:04 pm to tylerdurden24
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So Kirby can adapt or die. Scary part is I really don’t know what he’s going to do at this point. I hope he will adapt because he does it pretty well midgame but I’m afraid he’s too stubborn to do so
him not addressing this problem = Muschamp at Florida
good defense and no offense. Gotta go get Bobo and hope Jake comes back.
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