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Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:32 pm
Geez. Glad that's over. I can't believe he got what HE wanted with the concession of helmet hit suspensions not coming out of his guaranteed money, but to want any suspensions on the field too??? Asking a bit much as a rookie who hasn't played a down. Hopefully he gets caught up to speed quickly and can make a big impact immediately.
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:49 pm to IT_Dawg
I'm totally with him on this one..was a bad tactic on the Bears part..
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:00 pm to assgasdawg
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I'm totally with him on this one..was a bad tactic on the Bears part..
You mean the standard wording in everyones contract around these things? I can understand the "helmet" suspension request for it not to come against his guarantee, but ALL suspensions? Even Veterans take it out of their guarantee most of the time.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:05 pm to IT_Dawg
Aren’t there new rules that make defensive players especially vulnerable to fines?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:06 pm to Crowknowsbest
Yes that’s why it was a good move not to sign. Anyone could be suspended at any moment with these new rules
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:09 pm to DawgCountry
And given how arbitrarily the rules have been dolled out these first few preseason games, I think Roquan proved his point and got what he got
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:13 pm to IT_Dawg
In football, as in business, I will NEVER fault someone for getting as much money as they possibly can. Good for Roquan!
Posted on 8/13/18 at 7:57 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Aren’t there new rules that make defensive players especially vulnerable to fines?
Yes, Bears gave into that a while back. Roquan was trying to get any suspension or fine to go on that....like physical fighting or even pushing a ref. I’m not sure what they ended up agreeing to yet
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:37 pm to IT_Dawg
My opinion here, he's not wrong. Guaranteed money SHOULD be guaranteed. NFL contracts are basically written on toilet paper. If they are going use the term guaranteed, it should mean that unless there is a serious breach of contract that the money gets paid out. Teams have tried to play the "not my fault the penalties are getting so strong" game for a while, all while not fighting against them. Owners can and should be fighting in the interests of their players AND fans... Not just one of those.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:29 am to IT_Dawg
IT Dawg...it was not fines...it was that the bears could void his guaranteed money and roquan llays a position predicated on aggression. And what if a fight breaks out? Nope...better stand over here or lose millions.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:54 am to IT_Dawg
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I can't believe he got what HE wanted with the concession of helmet hit suspensions not coming out of his guaranteed money
HE should get exactly what he wants considering how asinine this new rule is going to be. I'd rather the player always benefit in these types of situations. frick most of the owners and GMs around the league.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:31 am to IT_Dawg
Get Paid then get laid.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:52 am to athens-ga
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IT Dawg...it was not fines...it was that the bears could void his guaranteed money and roquan llays a position predicated on aggression. And what if a fight breaks out? Nope...better stand over here or lose millions.
Wrong. They wanted to take away any suspension/fine money to be taken away from the gauranteed portion of the contract. His guarantee is the full $18M. Essentially, if he gets suspended, hey ar going to have to pay him anyways because he has the guarantee. If he gets in a fight or shoves a red and loses the appeal, that amount of money from losses due to suspension SHOULD be taken away from a player. The helmet rule, I completely agree on with Roquan and especially at his position and it being a new rule (but Chicago gave into that a while back).
This actually happened last year to the guy in Chicago and the coach defended him and they did not take away the guaranteed money anyways...despite it being in his contract that they “could.”
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 7:57 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 4:14 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Owners can and should be fighting in the interests of their players AND fans...
Wrong. If the players aren't fighting in the interests of the owners, why should the owners fight in the interests of the players?
And neither of them care about the fans.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:46 pm to AlaCowboy
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And neither of them care about the fans.
Why should they? The fans no longer pay the bills.
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