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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:38 am
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:38 am
I've blocked most of the game from my memory and have avoided watching any lowlights. My question is why in the world did Fromm throw 50+ passes? I can't remember seeing that from a Georgia quarterback since Zeier's days.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:39 am to
Going to man coverage in the secondary allowed SC to stack the box. They did a very good job of shutting down the run an forced Fromm to beat them with his arm.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:46 am to
Because our “heaviest line in football” wasn’t able to get push or combo block SC effectively.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 7:47 am
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15918 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:52 am to
Kinlaw straight up kicked Cade Mays’ arse up one side and down the other. USC also tackled extremely well in the open field, which had been a weakness of theirs all year. Combine that with the fact that Fromm had his worst performance since LSU and USC stacked the box against us, our offense just turned into a dumpster fire. The good news is that Fromm seems like he has 1 stinker every year, so hopefully if other teams try this blue print then he can pick them apart.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:57 am to
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Fromm had his worst performance since LSU and USC stacked the box against us, our offense just turned into a dumpster fire.


what confused me was why any time we took a deep shot it was a go route hugging the sideline. I didn't see one post pattern or really anythign with anything more involved than just running straight. I only noticed 1 or 2 back shoulders all day. Hardly any crossing routes and I don't recall a single slant all day. It was really befuddling why we called the plays we did. And on the times we did run, it was always straight up the center per usual. A high school DC could scheme for our offense.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15918 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:00 am to
I have yet to look at a single game this year and say “Hey, we came out with a great offensive gameplan”. Coley is Schottenhiemer with better talent.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86429 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:05 am to
can't believe I'm saying it but I miss chaney. He can't adjust to save his life but at least you knew the first half would be pretty good.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:34 am to
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what confused me was why any time we took a deep shot it was a go route hugging the sideline.

I don’t think Jake is very comfortable throwing over the middle. Everything is to the sideline, but it’s not like there aren’t routes over the middle.

ETA: that’s been the case his entire career
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:45 am to
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I don’t think Jake is very comfortable throwing over the middle.


He was money over the middle for 2 straight seasons with Nauta as a reliable target who would pull the ball in with some muscle.

Our TE play this year has been woeful, and Woerner has been a liability.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:51 am to
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Our TE play this year has been woeful, and Woerner has been a liability.


I'm perplexed we don't use the TE more. Granted we don't have a 5* stud there, but our coaches aren't idiots. They turn on the game film and watch Missouri, Florida, bama with irv smith, Sc with hurst, ND game this year, etc and see time and time again that a TE simply running seam routes down the middle causes big matchup problems. It's caused US big problems repeatedly. You'd think that after watching the film and seeing that we might incorporate it a bit but nope.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3893 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:56 am to
It's my opinion that Fromm is scared to let it fly over the middle because an overthrow is usually a turnover. Overthrows along the sidelines usually go harmlessly out of bounds.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:01 am to
We didn't get the ball to receivers in a way that allowed space to move - curls and outs as always.

SC forced us to pass then kept everything in front, which is what everyone will do moving forward. Slants, seams, and the TE must become a bigger part of the gameplan.

ETA:
Safeties played closer to the LOS as well. We had some success with PA, but never took the top off.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:21 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86429 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:03 am to
it's disheartening watching teams like bama and lsu that are typically known for plodding, archaic offenses (like ours) open things up and just score left and right. I watched the lsu/uf game saturday and it was a joy watching LSU's offense hit open receivers that had space to move.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:12 am to
quote:

I'm perplexed we don't use the TE more. Granted we don't have a 5* stud there, but our coaches aren't idiots. They turn on the game film and watch Missouri, Florida, bama with irv smith, Sc with hurst, ND game this year, etc and see time and time again that a TE simply running seam routes down the middle causes big matchup problems. It's caused US big problems repeatedly. You'd think that after watching the film and seeing that we might incorporate it a bit but nope.


same problem as stated above. I don't think Fromm is very comfortable throwing that ball, and he ultimately has to pull the trigger on it.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:16 am to
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He was money over the middle for 2 straight seasons with Nauta as a reliable target who would pull the ball in with some muscle.

Lol when was this?

I can maybe think of him hitting Nauta on a seam once. Last year against UF right before the half
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 9:18 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14136 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:18 am to
I think it’s because CKS put pressure on the offense to be more explosive. Wasn’t 1 in 8 plays needs to be explosive a thing this last week? That’s not Fromms strength.

He was pressing and that messed him up.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 9:19 am
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:09 am to
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I think it’s because CKS put pressure on the offense to be more explosive. Wasn’t 1 in 8 plays needs to be explosive a thing this last week? That’s not Fromms strength.

He was pressing and that messed him up.


A slant can be an explosive play with good execution. So can a screen.

Please don't coddle Fromm. Pressure is part of competition. Saying he can't handle pressure is saying he shouldn't be the QB.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:15 am to
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Lol when was this?

I can maybe think of him hitting Nauta on a seam once. Last year against UF right before the half


Against Alabama and Florida he was good up the middle. The rest the year was similar to this year, however.

I believe the difference is UGA prepared to vary the passing game against those opponents so Jake was naturally more comfortable. It seems obvious by his play that the coaches are emphasizing ball control and making the safe play.

ETA
That's why I believe this season is far from lost. UGA and Fromm can and have flipped the mindset switch and become more aggressive and explosive. I believe that's what we're in for the rest of this season.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:19 am
Posted by ugafan426
Member since Jan 2013
198 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:17 am to
He threw a great ball to Eli Wolfe on one of our earlier possessions on a crossing route on 3rd down that would have converted but it went right through Wolfe's hands.

I think a big part of Saturday's mess was our receivers couldn't get open against tight man coverage. There seemed to be a lot of drop backs where Fromm had good protection but it looked like he was just waiting for someone to get open.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:19 am to
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He threw a great ball to Eli Wolfe on one of our earlier possessions on a crossing route on 3rd down that would have converted but it went right through Wolfe's hands.

He did but never went back to it.

To clarify, I'm not saying he isn't capable. I'm saying he looks far more comfortable throwing outside. I think he defaults to that.
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