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re: Mr.Jim Chaney

Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:47 am to
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8421 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 10:47 am to
We threw that out pattern to the sideline at least 6 times. How about we try an inside pass?!

Posted by BoneDrownedDave
Member since Feb 2014
589 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:04 am to
At some point it's probably best just to skip over any and all OC threads. Most thankless job in football and most pointless threads on football message boards.

We're a running team and everyone knows that Georgia wants to run the ball. Yet we have 3 backs in the top five in the SEC in Yards Per Carry (Swift, Michel and Holyfield) and then Chubb is #8.

Pretty dam impressive if you ask me.

BUT BUT Chaney ran a draw play on 3rd and 15 in the second quarter and and then called 2 run plays in a row that didn't work in the third quarter. He sucks.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 11:05 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42429 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 11:31 am to
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We threw that out pattern to the sideline at least 6 times. How about we try an inside pass?!


1. It’s much more difficult for a True Freshman QB to read the inside of the field on defense.

2. Isn’t it working? Fromm is 6th in the nation and 2nd in the SEC in yards per attempt.
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 12:31 pm to
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No, but we also weren’t playing Bama or Auburn yesterday. We were playing Kentucky, and did what we needed to do to beat them.
That is the point, that we can put up these big numbers against inferior teams. Nobody is complaining about what we did yesterday, but how Chaney called basically about the same gameplan. Except I saw he used the draw a lot more but where is the screen at? Will that game plan vs Kentucky beat Bama or Auburn? That is what we are questioning. Even the announcer posed this same question.

So if we just went with your logic, the only time to question anything on the team would be after a loss. That is a reactionary way to address the problems and pretty weak. Chaney is still calling the same ole same ole, and it will be hard to do it vs the elite teams that can stop the run. We had no answer when that happened.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13149 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 1:07 pm to
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No, but we also weren’t playing Bama or Auburn yesterday. We were playing Kentucky, and did what we needed to do to beat them.

That is the point, that we can put up these big numbers against inferior teams. Nobody is complaining about what we did yesterday, but how Chaney called basically about the same gameplan. Except I saw he used the draw a lot more but where is the screen at? Will that game plan vs Kentucky beat Bama or Auburn? That is what we are questioning. Even the announcer posed this same question.



Yea, I heard that and agree. My only hope is that there is a super secret creative play plan that is being saved for the SECCG. So secret in fact that it couldn't be revealed during the blowout vs Auburn. Seriously though:
1. Teams know we are playing a Freshman QB and are going to load the box, play man to man and challenge Fromm to rise to the occasion.
2. But that hasn't been necessary in the 1st quarter of the last 2 games because we were determined to try and run the ball between the tackles.
3. Why not start out passing on first down to actually do something the defense doesn't expect you to do at the beginning of the game.
4. Having said that, Fromm needs to be coached to stop starring down initial receivers aka look-off the defense and then throw to the opposite side for a change.
5. That early INT was completely predictable because Fromm was throwing to the first receiver he looked at every time regardless of whether they were covered or not. I love Fromm but he's got some work to do in terms of quickly working through his progression.
Posted by Rollo
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
427 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 2:16 pm to
And Fromm stares down Wims every pass play. I watched him closely every pass play and he never once looked to his right. Not once. So, not only do we only use One side Of the field, everyone knows which side it is- the left. This has to change during the SEC Championship
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9397 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 2:36 pm to
We have to have one of the dumbest collective fan bases of any team.

I blame the fans that graduated when anyone with a pulse was admitted to the University.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13149 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

We have to have one of the dumbest collective fan bases of any team.



Maybe but who can say since there's no data that I'm aware of to verify that statement one way or another.

But I will say that the dawg fans on this board seem pretty knowledgeable regardless of whether I agree with them on a particular point or not.
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:34 pm to
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4. Having said that, Fromm needs to be coached to stop starring down initial receivers aka look-off the defense and then throw to the opposite side for a change.
I remember how most on here were killing Eason for this problem, yet not many have criticized Fromm for doing the same. Also another member mentioned how Fromm mainly makes his throws to the outside and hardly throws it over the middle. Which that could explain why our TE's have been about non existent in the passing game, other than throwing blocks.

Also I don't see Chaney having too many more plays up his sleeve that he hasn't used yet, unless they are just trick plays. He is what he is, but it seems most on here think that we should ignore his inept play calling simply for the fact that we are winning. Most want to ignore how weak of a schedule we lucked up with and the only team with a good Dline shut down our bread and butter with the quickness. Maybe Chaney will call something better in Atlanta if it happens again, which I think he will have some adjustments for the pass rush, as he finally called some draws this past game. Maybe he might realize we can throw a screen pass too. Seriously, how many have we thrown all season?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27288 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:41 pm to
We have to have one of the dumbest collective fan bases of any team

Yea because God forbid,ANYONE has the audacity to criticise or say negative word about Chaney is an idiot.

So you were perfectly satisfied with his play calling last week?
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7895 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

We have to have one of the dumbest collective fan bases of any team.

I blame the fans that graduated when anyone with a pulse was admitted to the University.


Kind of an elitist statement from someone whose handle is "Barstools"
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9397 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:50 pm to
When you have a weak OL and Freshman QB it limits your play calling abilities. Dropping back and throwing the ball over the middle of the field is not going to complement those two situations.

My post had nothing to do with criticism. It's the fact our fans can't recognize our weaknesses and go straight to bashing the OC.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9397 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:54 pm to
It's a song by the best band to come out of Athens.

Great point though, I will definitely rethink my original post.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27288 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 3:59 pm to
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When you have a weak OL and Freshman QB it limits your play calling abilities.


So just continually run the ball up the middle 30+ times for 1.4 yards a carry is the only option?

Don't ya think a coach should be a tad more flexible?

Oh BTW where was al this weak O-line talk leading up to the Auburn game?Sure,I heard a bunch of it preseason but can't recall a peep on this board from you or anyone else on the week leasing up to the game.
Please link if I'm mistaken
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9397 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:08 pm to
We will just ignore the line play since not many people were talking about it prior to being exposed.

Good argument. I've got no words.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:49 pm to
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Nobody is complaining about what we did yesterday, but how Chaney called basically about the same gameplan. Except I saw he used the draw a lot more but where is the screen at? Will that game plan vs Kentucky beat Bama or Auburn? That is what we are questioning. Even the announcer posed this same question.


Y'all don't know how game plans work, do you?

The OC, and offensive coaches get with the head coach and draw up plays they are going to use for certain situations. (2nd and long...2nd short...3 long...3rd short...) they also tailor it to where they are on the field and time left in period, etc.
They base this on film form this year, scouting reports, and good old fashioned guessing as to how they believe a team will approach us.

The head coach approves the plan, once the OC finalizes what he considers the best plan.

They don't just walk out on the field and think,...."I need to run more outside because we haven't done that in awhile!"

And you don't just trash a plan because some things do not work initially. For instance, you might run the ball up the middle several times early in the game to set up a play action pass, or simply to see how the defense reacts to certain plays. While running those inside runs that might be getting stuffed, they watch to see if the CB, S, LBs are crashing down on the run that might open up a slant or go route later in the game.

You guys act like a coach walks out on the field and ditches a game plan because one play isn't working....or they rework a game plan they have worked with the team on in the middle of the game. You make adjustments, but that is all they do. Adjust slightly.

(This is not aimed specifically at you, dawgsjw. It is just frustration at the amount of criticism being made by people who have either never played, or have never played higher than a high school level)

All that said...I only gave a VERY simplified version of what goes into it. At the level Georgia is at, a coach probably puts in 12-14 hours a day during the season watching film, coaching at practice and forming game plans....while staying in touch with recruits they are recruiting.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6938 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:24 pm to
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So just continually run the ball up the middle 30+ times for 1.4 yards a carry is the only option?


Well, since we don't do that 30+ times a game your comment is moot. Last week we got beat by a better team that outplayed our offense and defense, and out coached our staff. I'll bet our players and coaches learned something from that game and we'll see in 2 weeks if they learned and improved enough.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
1916 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:43 pm to
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The OC, and offensive coaches get with the head coach and draw up plays they are going to use for certain situations. (2nd and long...2nd short...3 long...3rd short...)


Noticeably absent is 1st and ten.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Noticeably absent is 1st and ten.


1st and long?
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 5:55 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59312 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 6:59 pm to
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