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Justin Fields vs. UMass
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:19 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:19 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 6:48 am to FooManChoo
Fields can contribute to wins against any team. I don't think that there is a drop off when Justin comes in.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 6:50 am to Whiznot
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I don't think that there is a drop off when Justin comes in.
I guess you you just started watching football yesterday....against UMASS....lol
Posted on 11/18/18 at 7:03 am to Whiznot
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Fields can contribute to wins against any team. I don't think that there is a drop off when Justin comes in.
It's really hard to say. Does he have talent? Absolutely. He was very accurate with the long throws, but it was like throwing in practice today. The receivers were, as a whole pretty open, and it was UMass. Against Alabama, or Florida or LSU the results might have been different. But, he did answer a few questions today, and looked very, very good.
I'm glad he got a good amount of playing time, and I hope he gets more next week against Tech.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 8:11 am to FooManChoo
A couple times he took off and ran the ball for little gain, his 2/3/4 receiver options were open.
In other words, he’s still not going through his progressions.
He basically looks down the #1 option, then if they’re not open, he tucks the ball and runs.
That was his life in high school, and it worked well because he was just bigger and faster than everyone else. But it’s not enough at this level.
He’s got to learn to diagnose defenses, see mismatched matchups, call option routes at the line, and progress through his targets based on processing it all.
It’ll come. He’s quite capable, of course. He’s just not there yet. Fromm, on the other hand, can do all that already.
In other words, he’s still not going through his progressions.
He basically looks down the #1 option, then if they’re not open, he tucks the ball and runs.
That was his life in high school, and it worked well because he was just bigger and faster than everyone else. But it’s not enough at this level.
He’s got to learn to diagnose defenses, see mismatched matchups, call option routes at the line, and progress through his targets based on processing it all.
It’ll come. He’s quite capable, of course. He’s just not there yet. Fromm, on the other hand, can do all that already.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 9:20 am to BeefDawg
The Ban Bet was your idea.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 9:31 am to BeefDawg
True, but it’s apples and oranges you are comparing. Fromm HAS to do the progressions because he is no threat to run and will get killed. Fields gets significant yardage so he doesn’t always have to do the progressions.
I would rather take a 5 yard Fields check down run than a Fromm incompletion to a second or third receiver.
I would rather take a 5 yard Fields check down run than a Fromm incompletion to a second or third receiver.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 9:39 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 9:59 am to BeefDawg
Utter BS. I wish people on this board would stop being so threatened by Justin Fields. He does, after all, wear the “G” on the side of his helmet. Fields completing almost 75% of his passes, no turnovers and runs when necessary and does so effectively.
He has a live arm and accuracy on the deep ball.
Coaches are being overly cautious with him but, when unleashed, he is gonna make plays and light up the scoreboard - just like Fromm - but with a different style.
He has a live arm and accuracy on the deep ball.
Coaches are being overly cautious with him but, when unleashed, he is gonna make plays and light up the scoreboard - just like Fromm - but with a different style.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/18/18 at 10:07 am to Dawg4Life47
It’s normal for a freshman...Fromm was a single read QB last year as well.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 10:17 am to NCDawg52
I disagree and thought Fromm did better than most freshman last year with check downs.
I just wish he would anticipate the receiver getting open rather than wait for it. He would be lethal as frick.
I just wish he would anticipate the receiver getting open rather than wait for it. He would be lethal as frick.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 10:38 am to Dawg4Life47
Fromm had almost every snap of every game last year. No QB in the history of earth gets to be a veteran battle tested QB who develops all the subtleties of the game without actually getting extensive playing time. “Jake did this last year” and “Jake did that”.....Jake got to play!
Fields came in today and dominated the game - those completions thrown today would have been completed against any team, if receiver was open. He was throwing dimes. There was nothing lucky nor flukey about it. Pure talent.
Fields came in today and dominated the game - those completions thrown today would have been completed against any team, if receiver was open. He was throwing dimes. There was nothing lucky nor flukey about it. Pure talent.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 10:57 am to Long Dawg
We are talking about progressions and Fromm does it better than all but Tua. Fields is learning how to do it better each day.
Fields doesn’t need to be that good on progressions, although it work be great if he got there sooner rather than later because no one could stop us.
Fields doesn’t need to be that good on progressions, although it work be great if he got there sooner rather than later because no one could stop us.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:14 am to Dawg4Life47
If Fields 2nd option isn’t open, then it is about time to take off anyway.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:26 am to Long Dawg
So what happened on his long run down the south sideline where he was run down? He appeared to have either run out of gas or trip a little. Which is it? That was weird to see but I was at a disadvantage of not having TV replays/analysis since I was at the game.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 11:39 am to Brick67
Exhibit A
The criticism of Justin Fields is out of control and irrational.
You are seriously complaining about his long run down the sidelines? LMAO
The criticism of Justin Fields is out of control and irrational.
You are seriously complaining about his long run down the sidelines? LMAO
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:27 pm to Long Dawg
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Fields came in today and dominated the game
It was UMass, dude. There is a big, big difference in UMass and Alabama.
quote:True. but the receivers would not have been that open against Alabama, and if he had decided to make the throws the passes might have been intercepted.
those completions thrown today would have been completed against any team,[quote] if receiver was open.
He looked good, no doubt, and showed remarkable accuracy on the long ball. There have been times this year that we have had receivers that open and Fromm missed the throw. Anybody that wants to argue that point with you would be wrong.
But you also seem to be losing sight that it was UMass, and those receivers would not have been that open against Alabama, LSU, Florida, etc.
Based on what i saw Saturday, I would say the team will beat Alabama by 30 points. That isn't going to happen though. We played against UMass, not Alabama. Don't go overboard by what a kid does against inferior competition. It would not be repeated against superior competition....probably. He shows a ton of talent, though, no doubt.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:38 pm to DawgsLife
Again, not sure how close you have been following my posts but I am not advocating Fields over Fromm - just more consistent PT and more of the playbook when he comes in the game. Justin can handle it and using both QBs to the best of their abilities makes Georgia a better team. Would like a 70/30 split in favor of Fromm but just more diversity of playcalling when Fields comes in - he can handle it.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:53 pm to Long Dawg
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Again, not sure how close you have been following my posts but I am not advocating Fields over Fromm
I bit. I don't have a big problem with what you are saying in general. but you do seem to be saying Fields is great right now based upon his showings against inferior teams. his stats are great inflated. Fromm benefits from this, too....but one reason Fields comp % is so high is when Georgia brings the WR around in front of the QB and the QB flips it to the receiver it is counted as a pass. Don't get me wrong. Fields has shown incredible accuracy. No matter who you are playing accuracy is accuracy. I would like to see him throw some back shoulder throws to see if he can do that/ That is a must for modern QB's. However, it isn't Fields fault....he is limited to the plays being called. The coaches are being very careful with the plays they are calling for Fields to ensure his success. The more success he has, the more his confidence grows and the more he advances.
quote:I agree with all of this.
just more consistent PT and more of the playbook when he comes in the game. Justin can handle it and using both QBs to the best of their abilities makes Georgia a better team.
quote:The coaches, in my opinion, are walking a very delicate line. they want to win, first, develop Fields second, and keep Fromm happy, too. They would like nothing better than to keep both Fromm and Fields next year, and that won't be easy to do.
Would like a 70/30 split in favor of Fromm but just more diversity of play calling when Fields comes in - he can handle it.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:08 pm to DawgsLife
Agree with most of your responses and especially the last one. I believe Kirby is trying to figure out a way to keep both happy, while winning, avoiding controversy and have stable atmosphere- that is a lot to balance.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:40 pm to Long Dawg
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Utter BS. I wish people on this board would stop being so threatened by Justin Fields.
You are wasting your time. They favor Fromm over Fields and always will, no matter what. Fields could play far better and move the offense better, they will still favor Fromm and come up with the same ridiculous criticisms, which aren't even accurate half the time.
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