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Is it time to abandon pro style?

Posted on 10/13/19 at 8:50 am
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 8:50 am
So im not gonna rehash on the disaster that was yesterday and I still think with UF losing we can right the ship.

However is it time for GA to implement a more modern offense with spread and a mobile QB? I love Fromm and company but. It just seems that the days of lining up with 5 tight ends and pounding the ball just isn't working.

It worked when we had Chubb and Michel as those 2 were the best back duo in UGA history imo, but our current RB setup just isn't capable.

Is it time or do you guys think Kirby will stick to his guns, even if it means running an ancient offense.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 8:52 am
Posted by assgasdawg
Lawrenceville
Member since Jun 2018
359 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 8:53 am to
quote:

It worked when we had Chubb and Michel as those 2 were the best back duo in UGA history imo, but our current RB setup just isn't capable.


interesting take on the RBs..they are pretty good, but not like we had before..
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:01 am to
The offense moves the ball (6th in the nation in total offense) we just don’t score (61st). It’s this nonsense conservative playcalling when we get in FG range like we don’t need TDs. Just kick 3 and play defense. That crap will get you beat
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:02 am to
We are running a Spread Offense.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:05 am to
We have the talent to win with this offense I just have a hard time believing it’s not coaching that’s killing us. I agree that Kirby plays it safe way too much but Coley can’t find a rhythm to save his life.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:10 am to
I think it’s worth considering that the playcalling may not be as conservative as it looks. Fromm ultimately has to be the one to pull the trigger. He also has a ton of control at the LOS by all accounts.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:14 am to
Offense seems to move the ball when Fromm goes up tempo. Seeing teams starting to fake injuries and burn time outs to slow the game down makes me think they all know Coley is a chump and our QB is a better OC.
Posted by RunLindsayRun
LaGrange | Athens
Member since Sep 2012
2726 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:15 am to
This is 100% closer to a spread offense than pro style. Look at our % of snaps out of the gun compared to stronger sets, not to mention we’ve abandoned the FB. Coley just has zero creativity and has no clue how to get his playmakers in space. Swing passes and Go routes after a dive for 3 yards are not gonna do it.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:16 am to
I don’t think our scheme is wrong. It’s how we are applying it. Plenty of teams run the same offense. We’re not in the Stone Age. Coley just has no imagination and can’t counter our decencies like a sub par WR Corp, lacking TE group, and game manager QB. Our strengths with RBs and OL are squandered by unimaginative runs up the middle or telegraphed end arounds to Cook or Simmons.

In other words the formations and foundation are fine. The execution, talent decencies, and inability to play to our strengths are the problem. James Coley is a problem.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7764 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:20 am to
We turned the ball over four times.

/thread
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63784 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:22 am to
We turned the ball over four times, missed two field goals from a guy who hasn't missed any, the OL were not blocking well, and the refs were one sided. I think we are good enough to overcome three of those, but not all four.

/thread
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:25 am to
We need to do what Alabama and LSU are doing bottom line.

No conservative play calling
No more manball
Run an up temp spread 100% of the time
Preferably a mobile QB
Game breaker at QB not game manager

Unless we make this change we won’t be blowing out good teams. Kirby seems fine with playing down to the competition and winning by the skin of our teeth.....I’m not. The teams Bama and LSU are beating by multiple TDs, we’d probably only win by one score against.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:29 am to
quote:

We turned the ball over four times.

/thread


Still would have barely beaten a shite SC team. What does that say?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:38 am to
We don't really run a pro style, we run the ball from the spread.

Besides not sure pros run pro style offenses anymore.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:45 am to
Nobody runs "Pro" anymore unless it's a backwoods po-dunk high school. fricking idiots.

We were running the Spread with Chubb and Michel under Chaney. About four times a game we would get in the I and run Toss Sweep. But we have been running the fricking Spread for a few years now.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 9:55 am
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:51 am to
We have spread tendencies but you can't run a spread offense with a pure pocket passer and lining up extra tackles at tight end.

We are a pound the ball and setup play action. Which to me is more prostyle
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:13 am to
Fromm is an above average pocket passer. Unfortunately with the speed of defenses these days that just doesn’t work anymore. Which is why the dual threat teams have so much success. Your stressing the defense in multiple ways each and every play.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14136 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:19 am to
Looking at the play by play - that game was an impossible combination of stupidity that resulted in a loss. Figure this out...

...Fromm throws pick 6.

...we go for it on 4th and 6 when it was obvious nothing was going to be easy. 4th and 6?

.....Rod gets a field goal blocked

....we fumble the snap on the SC 30

....we throw a pic on the SC 44

We basically chewed up the clock moving the ball to then finish the drive with a turnover, punt or something stupid.
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:31 am to
The chewing clock style does give the D a chance to rest. In our case, it gives the illusion we have depth on D. We have bodies, we have “talented” highly regarded recruits. What we don’t have us useable talent. This is probably why Kirby won’t change.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24554 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 10:34 am to
Can you like, calm down a little
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