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re: Haselwood's comments about our staff
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:34 am to Long Dawg
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:34 am to Long Dawg
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Knowing Kirby and controlling the message, it’s a good bet that he told his players that they weren’t to discuss Fields with sports media and/or on social media
And there are quite a few guys who as of a few days ago are no longer "his players".
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if you think on it, there has been almost no chatter on the subject from players. Coincidence? I think not.
Or maybe they just don't care overly much, since they're happy with the guy they've got, and are concentrating on going forward.
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:42 am to Whiznot
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Fields has a much higher ceiling than Fromm.
And a much lower floor.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:00 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Filed under the category of “Duh”
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:28 pm to Long Dawg
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There was just no rhyme nor reason to how Justin was used all year long. Evertime you thought there would be a change in strategy the following week it would go right back to a regression.
Completely agree
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Florida would be one example. After a lackluster start of year and then Jake layed the egg at LSU as one inflection point. Another, the UMASS game - for all the “It was UMass” poo-poo, Fields was dropping dimes 40-50yds down the field. He was cut loose in that game. If Chaney and Kirby were serious about developing Fields in 2019, there were 3-4 other games where he could have been unleashed for an entire 2nd half of football in a blowout game. I believe it was purposeful not to do so because there is no logical explanation not to do it.
I’ve said it before, but my way to use Fields this year would have been playing him for the entire second half of the UMass, Austin Peay, and Tenn Tech games (maybe add the Ga Tech game too). If Fromm got seriously injured we would have still had the option to use him as well. I think adding a year between the two of them and setting proper expectations for the season would have been really nice. Unfortunately we didn’t handle it well.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:58 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:Fields likes to take off and run, which increases the chances of injury. If we had another scholarship QB on the team, Fields might have had more playing time against the cupcakes, but as it stood, he was the safety valve if Fromm went down and he couldn't be risked for a few extra series in blowouts against nobodies.
I’ve said it before, but my way to use Fields this year would have been playing him for the entire second half of the UMass, Austin Peay, and Tenn Tech games (maybe add the Ga Tech game too). If Fromm got seriously injured we would have still had the option to use him as well.
Fields got a lot of playing time for the #2 QB on a team with a healthy starter. He was given more development opportunity than if he red-shirted and always had to be ready because he could be put in at any time.
Those clamoring for him to split reps with Fromm were not being realistic.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:48 pm to FooManChoo
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Fields likes to take off an run, which increases the changes of injury. If we had another scholarship QB on the team, Fields might have had more playing time against the cupcakes, but as it stood, he was the safety valve if Fromm went down and he couldn't be risked for a few extra series in blowouts against nobodies.
Fields got a lot of playing time for the #2 QB on a team with a healthy starter. He was given more development opportunity than if he red-shirted and always had to be ready because he could be put in at any time.
That's definitely fair. That's where having another serviceable QB really hurt us. If we would have even had someone like a Brice Ramsey we probably could have redshirted Fields (not that we would have). Oh well, sucks, but if we win the Natty in the next 3 years I'll get over it. Small ask
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:45 pm to HTDawg
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Fromm was spotty and streaky at best up through the LSU game.
Fromm had to deal with Fields coming in and out of the game and disrupting his rhythm in those early games. You claim it hurt Fields while glossing over how it may have affected Fromm.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:53 pm to chillmonster
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Fields was mismanaged, and we should admit it.
Fields is gone but the important question for me: Does Kirby, when he's thinking about it by himself, admit that he really fricked up the situation? Does he at least think, "Hmmmm...I probably should have figured out some kind of platoon system to give Fields extended playing time in real games...might have payed off in the SEC Championship...and Fields might have stayed, too."
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:03 pm to Lucius Clay
I'm not gonna be surprised one bit if Eason and Fields light it up. It happens I get it. Bigger issue is if that does happen gonna make people wonder why Fromm was played over these guys.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:12 pm to AllDawgCK
quote:There are a lot of stupid and forgetful people in the world. Fields and Eason playing well in a different program and against different opponents won't say anything about Fromm other than that he was able to beat them out of the job and they wanted to play somewhere he wasn't so they could start.
Bigger issue is if that does happen gonna make people wonder why Fromm was played over these guys.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:19 pm to AlaCowboy
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Fromm had to deal with Fields coming in and out of the game and disrupting his rhythm in those early games.
Fields hardly played in those games, and when he did it was usually for one play. Fromm wasn't in a rhythm in those games when Fields actually did come in, so I can't buy that Fields coming in for one play in a game which Fromm was playing poorly, somehow affected his rhythm. He didn't have any rhythm to affect. Fields didn't play at all in the Sugar Bowl and wasn't going to. Fromm still didn't play well.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:23 pm to FooManChoo
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Fields and Eason playing well in a different program and against different opponents won't say anything about Fromm other than that he was able to beat them out of the job and they wanted to play somewhere he wasn't so they could start.
If Fields absolutely balls out and is a Heisman caliber player, then it's a fair question to ask. If he doesn't then people will see why he didn't beat out Fromm. We know why Fromm started over Eason. Eason was injured for nearly half the season and Fromm led us to a 5-0 record. Smart wasn't going to take Fromm out and destroy the chemistry of the team by taking him out. If Eason was only injured for one game, it might have been different. It's not like Eason was great before the injury.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:29 pm to HTDawg
Fromm played as well as any other Dawg in the Sugar Bowl. They all should be ashamed of that.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:56 pm to AlaCowboy
Fromm didn't play as well as Herrien.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:15 am to Lucius Clay
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Fields is gone but the important question for me: Does Kirby, when he's thinking about it by himself, admit that he really fricked up the situation? Does he at least think, "Hmmmm...I probably should have figured out some kind of platoon system to give Fields extended playing time in real games...might have payed off in the SEC Championship...and Fields might have stayed, too."
Or does he maybe think that when Fields came on campus, he should have said: "Welcome to the University of Georgia. We're glad to have you. Welcome to the SEC, the toughest conference in college football. And let me tell you something about all of your 'skills.' As of right now, they mean precisely dick."
Posted on 1/16/19 at 4:18 am to AllDawgCK
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Bigger issue is if that does happen gonna make people wonder why Fromm was played over these guys.
Yeah, i mean, it's not like he has an established body of impressive work in his own right or anything. Dude probably wouldn't even be the top 10 quarterbacks on this board! Waving a towel on the sidelines in Pop Warner realistically should have been his highest ambition in football, and even that's being pretty fricking generous.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 6:49 am to HTDawg
And Fields was? Or are you still hung up on potential
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:56 am to FaCubeItches
Your comments will be dick when Fields wins a Heisman and leads OSU to 1-2 CFP appearances.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:51 am to Long Dawg
What will yours be when he doesn’t?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:10 pm to AlaCowboy
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Fromm played as well as any other Dawg in the Sugar Bowl. They all should be ashamed of that.
Absolutely! Nobody really showed up to play that game. I had a feeling we were in deep sh*t when our players were trash talking the playoff committee on Twitter. That showed their heads weren't in the right place. You want to prove the playoff committee got it wrong? Show and make a statement by beating Texas' arse, not by running your mouth on twitter.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 12:11 pm
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