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re: Haselwood's comments about our staff

Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:52 am to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63784 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:52 am to
The Jews gave us a wonderful word, "schmuck."


Try it in a sentence.


Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 10:58 am to
This kid bad-mouthing UGA is just strange.

You wanted to go to a throw-happy team and OK is a good fit...good for you.

Why kick GA in the nuts afterwards? Its unnecessary and the kid obviously doesn't understand that coaches and coaching situations are fluid...for them its a job and all about money.

Kid has a lot of growing up to do and it shows. Hope we get to play them in the near future and he gets the joy of being met over the middle by LeCounte(assuming he wraps up lol)
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63784 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:04 am to
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This kid [is a schmuck]




Fixed it for you.
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:05 am to
That was hard to watch. How could someone like that even pass the SAT? Never mind, I don't won't to know.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2788 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Why kick GA in the nuts afterwards? Its unnecessary and the kid obviously doesn't understand that coaches and coaching situations are fluid...for them its a job and all about money


There are a lot of adults that need to learn this including mouthpieces in the media.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:09 pm to
"The context that is going around was taking out of proportion"

Holy mixed metaphors, Batman!
Holy grammatical errors, Batman!
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:11 pm to
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didn't he decommit well before chaney left? how does that all add up?


It doesn't, but you're not supposed to notice that it's ex post facto justification.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:48 pm to
They're has to be a grain of truth to what he says, classless and immature though it may be. If nothing else it says something about HS players' perception of the program.

He has an ego. Ok. All of these guys do. Part of recruiting and developing elite players in today's game is managing egos.

Fields was mismanaged, and we should admit it. If you look at his stats in his first 40 passes it's better than Trevor Lawrence and much, much better than Fromm. Add to that his rushing numbers and you get a freshman who could have developed into a starter if given the opportunity. Now it's no secret that Chaney wanted to redshirt the kid before he ever got a chance to play, and he shrank Fields playbook after his play on the field suggested it should be expanded. That's not a real opportunity, and it's not fair to the player and not what's best for the team long term even considering how Fromm's play improved when the team lined up behind him and stepped away from Fields.

The program has to get better at managing these situations if we're going to continue to pull in and retain top talent. It's obvious that some players are developing the opinion that they may not get a fair shot at UGA. The perception is out there. Kirby should nip that in the bud now.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:19 pm to
He was giving an opportunity every day at practice to take the starting job and couldn’t. One read and run is not going to take the job from Fromm and Fields himself said he had no issues redshirting.

Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:33 pm to
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Fields himself said he had no issues redshirting.


This 10000x over. The kid knew he'd most likely sit and he came anyway.

Him leaving is proof he didn't truly believe that...he believed he'd beat Fromm and start. That is not the Universities fault in anyway. The kid did play but looked mediocre at beast when he went in. He even played in the fricking SEC championship game.

Im tired of this baloney. The kid didn't want to work for it, he wants to just be the starter. Not how the shite works. If Haselwood thinks that way abt the fields situation then he can kick rocks.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:34 pm to
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He was giving an opportunity every day at practice to take the starting job and couldn’t. One read and run is not going to take the job from Fromm and Fields himself said he had no issues redshirting


In game reps can not be replaced, and his play in game (70% 4TD 0INT) looks to me and to a lot of other people (prospective recruits included) like earning more of an opportunity to run the offense. That's the exact opposite of what happened.

The point here isn't Fields, though. It's perception. Juxtapose that stat line with how the staff shrank his playbook later in the season and tell ne how that looks to recruits.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:42 pm to
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how the staff shrank his playbook later in the season


did they? Were you in the QB room at UGA taking notes? Could it be Fields just couldn't read defenses worth a shite and made some bad calls making it appear the playbook "shrank"
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:50 pm to
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They're has to be a grain of truth to what he says


According to his "clarification," he was talking about having a dream of playing for Chaney, only to have Chaney not be there. Taking that as an accurate statement of his position, it has nothing whatsoever to do with Fields. There aren't many programs that can absolutely guarantee that any particular coach will be with them year after year going forward. Coaches leave for more money/more prestige/more authority all the time. They get fired all the time. They retire all the time. In other words:



Assuming that it *was* about Fields, this little bit:

quote:

when the team lined up behind him and stepped away from Fields


shows that *the team* itself made the choice about who it wanted, and that Haselwood is just being petulant because it wasn't what *he* wanted; i.e., the team should bend to his will, not the other way around.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42437 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:55 pm to
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Fields was mismanaged, and we should admit it. If you look at his stats in his first 40 passes it's better than Trevor Lawrence and much, much better than Fromm. Add to that his rushing numbers and you get a freshman who could have developed into a starter if given the opportunity.


Could you tell me which games Fields looked much, much better than Fromm please?
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:07 pm to
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Could you tell me which games Fields looked much, much better than Fromm please?


First 40 passes in college.

We all want to stand behind the program. We've got to honestly examine what UGA has done well and where we've fallen short to continue to improve.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6994 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:10 pm to
I guess the reason OSU stole Fields and ran off Martell was because Fields looked "mediocre at best."

A lot of GSB posters are lying to themselves. Every college in the USA would love to have Fields at QB. Fields has a much higher ceiling than Fromm.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42437 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:20 pm to
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First 40 passes in college.

We all want to stand behind the program. We've got to honestly examine what UGA has done well and where we've fallen short to continue to improve.



That doesn’t answer my question. Which games did Fields look much, much better in than Fromm?
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:39 pm to
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That doesn’t answer my question. 


Because the question was irrelevant. I provided clarification because if you had understood the statement you wouldn't have asked that.

This point was at the same stage of development Fields looked as good as any freshman I can remember save maybe for Tua, and much better than Fromm.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42437 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:45 pm to
No. You’re cherry picking stats.

Fields looked great against Austin Peay, MTSU, and UMass.

I think he’ll be a stud, but the way you’re trying to prove that is incredibly misleading.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:55 pm to
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This point was at the same stage of development Fields looked as good as any freshman I can remember save maybe for Tua, and much better than Fromm.


Fields looked better than Fromm did as a true freshman? How do you figure? Fromm came in with Eason's early injury, never let go, and led the team to an SEC title and nearly a national title.

As for Fields looking good in his first 40 passes, that could be an argument that the staff should have used him a lot more...maybe even a Greene-Shockley situation...but would Fields have even been happy with that?

It really seems like Fields thought he would come in and be handed the job...or else he underestimated the complexity of playing at the next level...or he underestimated Fromm.

Fields may go on to be great at OSU but he couldn't beat Fromm quickly enough for his taste. That's really all there is to say...he just didn't want to wait and there was no guarantee he was going to beat Fromm next year, either.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 4:57 pm
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