Gripefest (Formly know as Coaching Changes)

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1)Will Coley stay as OC?

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Dont know

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2)Will Hankton be shown thew door?

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dont know. But I predict the fan perception of Hankton goes like Tray Scott. People dawg him for the mess left by his predecessor (see#1). Seeing his own recruits shine, people will worry that he might get pulled away.

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3)Will Scott follow Pittmman to Arkansas?

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no. David has spoken

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4)Will we hire a Passing Game Coordinator?

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dont know

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I didn't see much improvement if any with our WRs throughout the season

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Blaylock and Cager showed huge improvement this season. Agree to disagree.

The failures to improve were our senior and several juniors (not his guys). Blame hankton for not reaching them. Or lose him and dont see what he can do with Pickens, Blaylock, Rosemy, Burton, Smith, and Robinson.

Luke should be OC

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Are you saying that the WR coach should only be responsible for the development of "his" guys

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Bill parcels. If you want me to cook, let me pick out the ingredients.

With the loss of juniors to the nfl, hankton had tyler Simmons as the lone senior in the wr room. Try making chicken salad out of Simmons and Landers.

Blaylock was a true frosh. Hankton got him ready for the SEC. He had a great freshman season for us before the injury.
Cager was a castaway from Miami. Too many balls reached his chest to be consistent there (same problem landers has now. But the kid has to put in the work to get better) Ask miami fans if Cager improved.

With as much talking as Like did with fromm, I tend to agree.

Still be interesting how that trip out west went.

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Cager started off the season well

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Having watched Miami a lot the last few years...Cager being as good as he was for Georgia was surprising to me. He was their Landers for 3 quarters of every game then he would turn into a good receiver for the last quarter and make a great catch to save the game.

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Having watched Miami a lot the last few years...Cager being as good as he was for Georgia was surprising to me. He was their Landers for 3 quarters of every game then he would turn into a good receiver for the last quarter and make a great catch to save the game.

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I agree with you. Whatever happened in the off-season did wonders for Cager, but Cager was our go-to target very early on in the season. I'm specifically talking about my disappointment in the lack of improvements to the WR corps as a unit over the course of the season. We were seeing the same issues against LSU as we did against Vanderbilt with many of the same receivers.

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So... you ask what receivers that Hankton has coached up but you are excluding Cager and Pickens from the discussion.

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1. I'm talking bout "coaching up" throughout this season, not before the season started, which is why I'm excluding Cager. Cager was consistent from the beginning so there wasn't a lot of improvement necessary throughout the season.

2. I'm not excluding Pickens at all. Pickens has had a lot of improvement, but it's not good enough to have on receiver get better during the course of the season when that's the only receiver you can throw to. We had Cager and then he got hurt and we had no one. Pickens came on strong at the end of the season but then he was our only real target, as Cager was earlier in the season. I was expecting most if not all of our receivers to make improvements throughout the season.

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I got it. This is like those political surveys that have been so accurate with their measurements and predictions.

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It's not. Our passing game got worse as the season went on primarily because Cager was absent. I would've expected to see it get better and better throughout the season as the receivers gained experience and confidence and had more time to work on their routes.

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Tray Scott got the same heat as Hankton. Then Jordan Davis emerged. Then Devante Wyatt and Travon Walker. Then a bunch of 23 year olds started playing like they were older and more mature than the competition. And Tray Scott is cool, now.

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We had a young group of guys playing for us this season so I understood that they weren't going to step out on the field against Vanderbilt and play as well as a veteran like Cager. My point has been that they should've been getting better and better as the season went on, but instead, they were making the same mistakes at the end of the season as they were in the beginning; there wasn't noticeable improvement.

So... I will preface this with an aside... as a poster, I like you. Fromm fangirl status not withstanding. So don't take the following the wrong way.

"In season coaching" is in many ways overblown. With practice limits, run-throughs and game planning requirements taking up a good chunk, there isn't as much time as people think for a coach to just "coach em up" when you're working with a group that has minimal time in the program (freshmen) or underwhelming skillsets (Simmons/Landers for example).

Cager was consistent from the beginning because he was the type of receiver that Jake likes (see: Wims, Javon).

Pickens improved as his target volume improved. Unsurprisingly, Blaylock looked better as his target volume improved. With few exceptions, this tends to be the case with most talented receivers. They get better as they get more targets because coaches can take the film and point out how to improve/adjust.

Landers has been primarily an effort problem from what I've seen. I don't know how Hankton can fix that.

Simmons is just not a super talented *receiver*. He's fast and physical but does not possess elite catch skills. Not sure how Hankton is supposed to fix that during the year.

I thought Kearis Jackson looked improved when he was healthy.

DRob is an enigma to me as he's been so wildly inconsistent. He'll run a *great* route and get open and Fromm underthrows him, or Fromm puts a perfect on the money timing ball to a place it seems like DRob should be able to get to, and he is slow out of his break. I won't put that on any one guy because frankly we don't have enough info to know, but it's been clear that the 2 of them have not been on the same page all year.

By no means am I 100% sold on Hankton as a coach and if Kirby decides it's time to part ways, so be it, but I do think it's a little less than fair to discredit Hankton on the basis of one factor that is somewhat limited in scope. Show me all the teams who had bad receivers to start the year and those receivers were super great by the end of the year? I'm not sure I have seen it very often, particularly not when the QB was also having a bit of a slump year as well and not to mention you've replaced your OC with someone that may or may not be well suited to the role.

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had a young group of guys playing for us this season so I understood that they weren't going to step out on the field against Vanderbilt and play as well as a veteran like Cager. My point has been that they should've been getting better and better as the season went on,

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The young guys were improving and getting better. You even acknowledged that for Pickens and Blaylock.

I thought your beef was that older guys like Robertson, Landers, and Simmons didnt get better?

You seem to be covering all bases (which makes it sound like you have no point other than you dont like hankton).

I dont mind agreeing to disagree. There is a lot to be dissatisfied with at receiver this season. The question is if it is the new guys fault? Or other issues (webb going to DB, holloman getting booted, etc as far as upperclass receivers would be concerned).

People dont have to like hankton. I just think there is more there to it than at his feet.