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Georgia and 2019 NFL Draft
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:32 am
My predictions:I don't see any players drafted in the 1st round.
2nd round: Baker and Ridley.
3rd round: Hardman and Walker
4th round: Nauta
5th round: Ledbetter, Gaillard and Holyfield
I think Baker lost out by the lackluster work effort including skipping out on the bowl game. More than one scout mentioned that.
2nd round: Baker and Ridley.
3rd round: Hardman and Walker
4th round: Nauta
5th round: Ledbetter, Gaillard and Holyfield
I think Baker lost out by the lackluster work effort including skipping out on the bowl game. More than one scout mentioned that.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 11:34 am
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:41 am to Dawgsfan81
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lackluster work effort including skipping out on the bowl game. More than one scout mentioned that.
This is a load of crap. Baker’s work effort was awesome all season (at least outside of not playing in the bowl game).
Someone wants him to slide down the board, so they reported this. There’s a zero percent chance Kirby or staff would have shared that information with anyone if it was true, which I don’t believe it is.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:53 am to Dawgsfan81
I find it hard to believe that Baker went from being just a decent player to the best shutdown CB in football over the last two seasons while having a poor work ethic.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:54 am to Dawgsontop34
I have to say this quote from Holyfield speaks volumes as to why he didn't see the field more earlier...
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It just seems like he didn't even put in effort into getting ready for the combine/pro-day... He doesn't run like a 4.8 40 guy on the field, so how on earth do you not put in the effort to reduce the time when it has such a direct impact on your future success financially.
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“I’m a guy who likes to play football, not all the other stuff that comes with it,” he said.
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It just seems like he didn't even put in effort into getting ready for the combine/pro-day... He doesn't run like a 4.8 40 guy on the field, so how on earth do you not put in the effort to reduce the time when it has such a direct impact on your future success financially.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:00 pm to Dawgsfan81
Baker goes to PIT or NE in round 1.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:05 pm to fibonaccisquared
What a terrible take on just about every level.
1- You misinterpreted his quote.
2- he most definitely ran like a 4.8 40 sprinter his entire career.
3- I think having Nick Chubb and Sony Michel, two of the greatest RBs UGA has ever had, had more to do with him not seeing the field earlier than whatever you're interpreting from his quote.
1- You misinterpreted his quote.
2- he most definitely ran like a 4.8 40 sprinter his entire career.
3- I think having Nick Chubb and Sony Michel, two of the greatest RBs UGA has ever had, had more to do with him not seeing the field earlier than whatever you're interpreting from his quote.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:06 pm to fibonaccisquared
Holyfield worked with a track star to improve his speed, sadly you can shave a little off through technique but it's frankly something you are born with or without...
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:18 pm to Dawgsfan81
Nauta deserves to be at a minimum 2nd round, even for a TE. And I am hoping that my NFL team, the Jags, pick up him or Holyfield but knowing owner, we wont which will be another big mistake by Kahn.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:48 pm to Dawgirl
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And I am hoping that my NFL team, the Jags, pick up him or Holyfield but knowing owner, we wont which will be another big mistake by Kahn.
It would be a huge mistake picking Nauta in the 2nd round, when you can get him in the 4th.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:08 pm to K9
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1- You misinterpreted his quote.
What was misinterpreted? The question was around his workouts and he basically tried to imply that what he does in the game is the only thing that matters.
2) He ran an 11.39 100M time in high school...
This is not an exact conversion, but it's a reasonable estimation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3e1vfa/ochow_40yard_dash_result_translated_to_100_sprint/
Given his time, that would imply an approximate 4.6 40 time... I don't think anyone expected him to run a 4.4... but a mid 4.6 would have been sufficient not to shove him to the bottom of the draft grades...
3) Herrien still saw the field behind Chubb and Michel... Holyfield is objectively a better RB than Herrien, but it would seem that Holyfield's approach may have been at least partly to blame for ending up behind him. (Yes, he had an ankle injury but that happened after he was already behind Herrien from practice reports)
Great job at showing everyone what a "bad take" looks like though...
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:10 pm to lewis and herschel
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Holyfield worked with a track star to improve his speed, sadly you can shave a little off through technique but it's frankly something you are born with or without...
Maybe it's a byproduct of all the bulking up he's done? If you notice above, his HS track time in the 100M was an 11.39... roughly translates to about a 4.6 40 time (not exact by any means)...
Just seems like he should have been able to improve a HS time after 3 years in college and time with a track star in preparation for the combine/pro-day efforts.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:42 pm to fibonaccisquared
he was asked how he feels about his 40 time being criticized. Hes saying his only focus is football...not what his critics are saying...you interpreting that as him not working hard is laughable.
According to your chart, 11.39 translates to between 4.6-4.7...he ran a 4.78..which probably falls in the margin of error for that conversion. So thanks for proving he has never been a burner.
To assume Elijah hasn't worked hard just because he didn't meet your opinion on what his 40 time should be is ignorant as frick. Especially with zero knowledge of what he has been doing and basing it entirely on a quote where your reading comprehension failed you.
According to your chart, 11.39 translates to between 4.6-4.7...he ran a 4.78..which probably falls in the margin of error for that conversion. So thanks for proving he has never been a burner.
To assume Elijah hasn't worked hard just because he didn't meet your opinion on what his 40 time should be is ignorant as frick. Especially with zero knowledge of what he has been doing and basing it entirely on a quote where your reading comprehension failed you.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:41 pm to K9
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he was asked how he feels about his 40 time being criticized. He's saying his only focus is football...not what his critics are saying...you interpreting that as him not working hard is laughable.
Who the frick said he simply didn't "work hard"... shite... in the exact same article I linked to, Kirby talks specifically about how he was the last guy in...
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He brings toughness, he brings a demeanor about him. He loves the work. He was the last guy off the field every day here. He wanted to catch extra balls. He’s done a tremendous job in our program and he’s going to do the same thing in that organization.
However, if your mental approach is that there is "football on the field" and "all that other stuff"... you may be missing some of the nuances of what it takes. Fortunately, we got to see what he brought to the table this year despite that.
I *did* however say it *seems* as though he didn't put in the effort to get ready. As in, one would have anticipated him to perform better in an event that essentially can make or break a draft position. If he worked with a track specialist, then it might have made sense to not run the event at that point... Either he was running faster in practice, or he was poorly advised on running at the combine, as having 2 bad times was infinitely worse than having 1.
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According to your chart, 11.39 translates to between 4.6-4.7...he ran a 4.78..which probably falls in the margin of error for that conversion. So thanks for proving he has never been a burner.
He ran a 4.78 and a subsequent 4.81... at roughly 21 years of age... with 3 years of development in a college S&C program and after apparently training with track specialists... He ran that 11.39 as a Sr in HS... As I said, above, it's certainly possible that all of the bulking up he's done has prevented speed gains, but that is a pretty substantial issue to not have planned around. Nic Brosette ran a 4.72 and he looks downright slow with respect to "football speed".
No one claimed he was a burner... simply that his time is disappointing relative to what would be expected from his corresponding 100M. You sure do like jumping to extremes here...
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To assume Elijah hasn't worked hard just because he didn't meet your opinion on what his 40 time should be is ignorant as frick. Especially with zero knowledge of what he has been doing and basing it entirely on a quote where your reading comprehension failed you.
Again... the quote is a means of demonstrating a mental approach... No one said he hasn't worked hard... I did question the approach to preparing for the combine...
You say all this as though you think I don't like the kid. Look back at my posts from the season. I'm a fan. I actually expected that he could do quite well this year in the draft due to a relative lack of talent at the position... but that was also presuming he'd post a sub 4.7 40 time...
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:35 pm to Dawgsontop34
You guys know the draft way better than I do so.....ok!
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:49 pm to Dawgirl
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Nauta deserves to be at a minimum 2nd round,
He will be lucky to be picked at all with his speed.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:56 pm to Dawgirl
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Nauta deserves to be at a minimum 2nd round, even for a TE
You're one of those chicks who like to show off their football knowledge to impress the fellas are you?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:00 pm to djsdawg
Nauta will probably be drafted, but not high. He doesn’t really have anything super special in terms of TE skill set that makes me say that he is definitely going to be successful in the NFL.
He has good, not great hands.
He runs good, not great routes.
He is an adequate/sometimes reluctant, not great blocker.
Awful speed, even for a TE.
Not busting on your assessment, dawgirl. Just letting you know some of the reasons people are likely not expecting him to be a high draft pick.
He has good, not great hands.
He runs good, not great routes.
He is an adequate/sometimes reluctant, not great blocker.
Awful speed, even for a TE.
Not busting on your assessment, dawgirl. Just letting you know some of the reasons people are likely not expecting him to be a high draft pick.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:20 pm to Dawgirl
Where the Jags sit in the draft right now, they may be taking the Iowa TE in the first round?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:57 pm to Dawgsfan81
Baker should go in the 1st round, between 12 and 20. If he lasts to the end of the round New England really likes him.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 5:34 pm to AlaCowboy
When does all this shitshow start and what channel?
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