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Fromm's leadership vs. Tebow

Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Arch Madness
Charleston
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:27 pm
After that all around gut-wrenching performance yesterday, you better hope our team can pull it together real quickly.

It is true that many teams have lost en route to a national championship (i.e. Clemson in 16, and Ohio St. in 14). But we also cannot forget the other teams that have started out higher ranked, containing all star recruits, who went on to take a nosedive midseason (Auburn in 14)

We all remember Tebow's passion after losing to Ole Miss in 2008, going on to make his famous speech that resulted in their national title bid. Am I a bad fan for wanting our QB, Jake Fromm, to mimic that intensity? To put the team on his back? Fromm's strengths are supposed to be his leadership abilities, and mental awareness. When are we going to see that sort of drive from our star QB?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44621 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Am I a bad fan for wanting our QB, Jake Fromm, to mimic that intensity? To put the team on his back?


When Fromm has to put the team on his back, it doesn't generally go well
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86428 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:33 pm to
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It is true that many teams have lost en route to a national championship (i.e. Clemson in 16, and Ohio St. in 14)


and bama 17, and bama 12, and bama 11, and uf 08, and lsu 07, and uf 06, and lsu 03, etc. etc.

quote:

We all remember Tebow's passion after losing to Ole Miss in 2008, going on to make his famous speech that resulted in their national title bid. Am I a bad fan for wanting our QB, Jake Fromm, to mimic that intensity?


that whole thing seemed forced and fake as frick. I hope jake doens't publicly do something liek that. It's also worth pointing out that UF was much, much better than everyone else on their schedule after ole miss. I'm not sure we're much, much better than UF/AU/Miz this year.
Posted by Arch Madness
Charleston
Member since Jan 2018
1059 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:41 pm to
Fromm still went out there after each play yesterday looking around nonchalantly. It would help if he showed some more emotion, and carried with him some grit that could wear off on our other players
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 2:24 pm to
I would have left thinking he was a moron.

However, they won a natty.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50245 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

I would have left thinking he was a moron.

However, they won a natty.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5211 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 3:03 pm to
No you are not a bad fan to want our QB to be this type of leader... the issue is I don’t think he’s gifted physically enough to do it... I wish he was.

I prefer to have have a game changer who needs to be taught how to mange a game.

Than a game manager who can’t change the game when needed.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:29 pm to
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It is true that many teams have lost en route to a national championship
My main concern is those teams truly had a game where they were off whereas it felt like we’d been showing cracks all season and it finally all showed at once. Against a 2-3 team.
Posted by Arch Madness
Charleston
Member since Jan 2018
1059 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:37 pm to
Yeah but just for a second realize all that had to go wrong for us to lose...

4 turnovers, (Pick 6, and one while driving in the 4th is at least a 10 point swing)
2 FGs not converted by Rod
End of game management by Kirby
Countless penalties by our defense

Posted by smelvis
Member since Nov 2010
2107 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:37 pm to
This team absolutely deserved to get punched in the mouth and they needed it if they have any shot at winning vs the November slate. The attitudes and effort coming out of fall camp, from the coaching staff on down, have been doo doo. Now we’ll see what kind of staff and team we have - Kentucky won’t tell the story. We’ll know by halftime of the Florida game though and color me skeptical because I think this team is akin to 2010 Alabama. Load of talent but too much broken to fix.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3939 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:38 pm to
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nonchalantly
He calmly took his center off to the side and worked on the snap after that fumbled snap. That's leadership. He's always talking to his line, receivers and running backs. Jake Fromm is not the problem. Kirby Smart is. He's a phenomenal recruiter that still believes in 1980 football. He's improved but he refuses to move into this century on offense.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:40 pm to
I agree that Kirby and his staff are the problem. But Jake Fromm is not without blame. That collective puddle of piss left in Sanford came down his leg along with the rest.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 4:42 pm to
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Fromm is not the problem.


Kirby is the main problem, but Fromm played poorly.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
3343 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 5:01 pm to
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When Fromm has to put the team on his back, it doesn't generally go well


0-5 with 30 passes or more.

Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6938 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 5:06 pm to
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and bama 17, and bama 12, and bama 11, and uf 08, and lsu 07, and uf 06, and lsu 03, etc. etc.


You forgot to add ... and UGA 19
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3939 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:41 pm to
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Fromm played poorly
He played well when we played uptempo. Like he always does. I'm not sure why we can't just, you know, do that. But overall you're right. Not his best game.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42435 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:44 pm to
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0-5 with 30 passes or more.


This is slightly deceiving, because teams are going to pass more in games they’re losing, but I do get the overall point.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22173 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:44 pm to
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He played well when we played uptempo. Like he always does. I'm not sure why we can't just, you know, do that. But overall you're right. Not his best game.


Apparently scoring too quickly will make your defense tired...or some such bullshite football “wisdom”
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:58 pm to
Yep.

Don’t want to score too many points like Bama and LSU.

(“it doesn’t matter if the other team scores as long as you win by 3 tds” -Alabama probably
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 7:00 pm
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20238 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:12 pm to
I didn’t get to watch the whole game but we had a lot of lucky breaks to even have a chance to win.

PI on that last drive on fourth and goal.

USC missed a 39 yard fg in overtime that would have ended the game

Sure I’m missing more
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