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Whiznot
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
I hate that there is never a full-back against short yardage. I hate the lack of sweeps. The UGA offense feels incomplete but we move great between the 20s.


deeprig9
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
That's not a uga thing, that's a football thing.

Dynamics of offense and defense changes when everyone is packed together in a <15 yard deep area.

You can't stretch the defense vertically up into the stands and punch it in.


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IT_Dawg
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
Did you want Kirby to throw out all the short yardage play-action and movements when up by 20+, this early in the season?


Whiznot
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
We saw the same red zone run ineffectiveness all last season. It doesn't seem like Kirby is keeping better plays in reserve.


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SneakyWaff1es
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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Bottom line is we need to find a better plan than heavy personnel, bunch set, tailback 3 yards behind the line, dive play for short yardage.

It was Vandy. These kids could beat them without coaches. There was no reason to do anything else. Vandy was going with three desperation playbook on offense on the first quarter.


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DaveyDownerDawg
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
In the spread the "fullback" is the h-back which we run some in some of our sets.

Guys the days of the I formation are dead. Get over it.
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dawgdayafternoon
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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Right guard and at center.

That doesn't answer my question.

I asked when it was that Hill struggled... as in, what games? He had a few of bad snaps when he filled in at center last year and got beat for a sack by the #2 pick in the draft, but I don't remember a case where he stood out as a weak link. The entire OL was bad in the Sugar Bowl.

When was it?


superdawg
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
323 total rushing yards or not, when it's 3rd and 1 and we line up in a bunch set, we are so easy to stop


meansonny
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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When was it?


When he played right guard. He wasnt good. He was a band aid on a great line. But he struggled. If you doubt me, check out Quinnen William's stats. It was his 2nd best game of the season (meaning 13 other right guards held up better against him in 2018).



Dick Leverage
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
Well, this is where I would normally say “it’s the first game and we were in control. No need to show our other run options before ND.” Except I said that last year and we were doing the same thing in game 12. I doubt it changes much.


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dawgdayafternoon
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
So, he was outplayed by the best defensive lineman in college football. Not all that surprising and I don't see why that's an indication that he won't show any progression.


Cobb Dawg
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
Our former concern weighs 500 lbs and is in Tenner's booth now.

We're fine.


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meansonny
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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he was outplayed by the best defensive lineman in college football. Not all that surprising and I don't see why that's an indication that he won't show any progression.


Of course he will improve. We have pittman.

But he is granted infinite powers and greatness by our fanbase because he lines up on the same line as Andrews, Kindley, and Wilson. He hasn't earned that trust yet. He wasnt consistent last season (i.e. he struggled). And so far this season, consistency is still in question.

He will improve or he will get benched. We are too talented to let our center get pushed 2 yards into the backfield on 3rd and 1 when the rest of the line is getting push. I hope he improves. We need him. We need 3rd and 1.


meansonny
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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best defensive lineman in college football.

I will say it one last time. William's had his 2nd best game of the year over top of Hill.

Do with that information whatever you want. Hell... give Hill a participation trophy for lining up in front of Williams in a game that we needed to win.


DawgsLife
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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I will say it one last time. William's had his 2nd best game of the year over top of Hill.



In fairness, it might have been the first game of the year in which he played the entire game. (A&M, maybe?) He was probably amped up a bit more in the SECCG, than he was.....say...against Arkansas St., Arkansas, Louisville, Ole Miss, The Citadel etc.

I'm sure Hill struggled last season. He was a backup for a reason. I am a bit nervous about him from the stand point that he is the OLine QB calling blocking assignments, etc while realistically learning the position.

I have a feeling as the season goes along he will improve, or he will be replaced.

Didn't mean to get in y'alls conversation.
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meansonny
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ATL
Member since Sep 2012
8674 posts

re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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He was a backup for a reason.


He was our 4th string right guard. He struggled. But it absolutely could be said that "he played well for a freshman" or "he played well for a 4th string right guard". It doesn't mean that he played well. But he probably played better than a freshman should have.

He absolutely will get better. Ideally, he becomes the rimington quality center that we want in November. He isnt close. But with his talent and Pittman coaching, I wouldnt be shocked if his consistency and trust is where it needs to be by seasons end (I always believe upperclassmen are better because of their experience and conditioning... by seasons end,he will be right at that cusp).

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Didn't mean to get in y'alls conversation.
personally, I love reading your takes and observations. Dont apologize.


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VoxDawg
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Kennesaw, GA
Member since Sep 2012
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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One of those 3rd/4th and 1s is squarely on Herrien. Looked like he was supposed to go right behind Trey/Cade and when Hill got torpedoed by his guy, Brian still tried to run there. Guess he thought he could run through him....


Easily the worst offensive play of the game, IMO. Few things are more exciting than when we see Swift's vision on full display as he sees a running lane being taken away by line play and he has the sight to shift his direction and make lemonade out of a play that's destined for no gain. I imagine Zeus will develop that skill, too.


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Dawgsontop34
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
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He wasnt consistent last season


He was a true freshman.

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And so far this season, consistency is still in question.



Wtf are you talking about? We’ve played one game and Hill graded out better than anyone else in the SEC at center.


grey
Georgia Fan
Member since Aug 2015
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re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
Trey Hill and Thomas made the PFF SEC Team of the week.



Dawgsontop34
Georgia Fan
Member since Jun 2014
28459 posts

re: For all the talk of the O line, call me concerned.
I know. That’s why these comments about Hill are hilarious to me.

Anyone complaining about our OL is a miserable human being. Our OL absolutely dominated that game.


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