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Common theme I'm hearing about the CFB Playoff rankings
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:05 pm
So I'm rewatching the announcement show and I've now heard at least three commentators say that while Georgia is ranked #1, Bama passes the eye test as the better team and would be about a 10 point favorite over Georgia.
While I know Saban probably likes the #2 ranking because it shows "disrespect" to his team and offers additional motivation, could the same not be said about Georgia hearing that they're #1, "but wait, no, really they aren't"?
While I know Saban probably likes the #2 ranking because it shows "disrespect" to his team and offers additional motivation, could the same not be said about Georgia hearing that they're #1, "but wait, no, really they aren't"?
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:21 pm to S1C EM
Of course the line will have to give UGA points but the line isn't predictive. It just balances risk. The line has undervalued UGA all year. The average bettor is going to want his money on Bama based on history. Bets on UGA must be induced.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:24 pm to S1C EM
All I'm hearing is "Whoa is me". Come on! If 3 vs 1 is a difference in stomping Scars arse then I'm listening.
Also Kirbs hasn't had a let down this year yet.
Also Kirbs hasn't had a let down this year yet.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:25 pm to Whiznot
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The average bettor is going to want his money on Bama based on history. Bets on UGA must be induced.
At least three commentators stated they've watched both teams and Bama is the better team. There's more than a "historical advantage" there.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:41 pm to S1C EM
I think it is quiet obvious that UGA is ranked #1 to protect BAMA so when they lose to us in the SEC CG, they still can get in to the playoffs. What looks worse, losing to the #1 team, or being the #1 team and losing?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:48 pm to dawgsjw
Good try but no. Losing while in the two slot likely drops you 2 spots presuming there is at least two other one loss teams with their loss earlier in the season and not a complete shite resume. Dropping to the four spot would immediately trigger a rematch in round ones, and as a result, if it's possible to put another team above them, it would happen. Same thing would go for us honestly.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:06 pm to fibonaccisquared
quote:If the roles are reversed and we lose to Bama, we will be out, assuming there are a few more 1 loss teams. But Bama losing to us and being their only loss, they still will get in over other 1 loss teams if needed. Bama will get the benefit of the doubt, and we won't. It has been proven time and time again. It shouldn't be like that, but I can see it going down like that depending on who those other 1 loss teams were.
Good try but no. Losing while in the two slot likely drops you 2 spots presuming there is at least two other one loss teams with their loss earlier in the season and not a complete shite resume. Dropping to the four spot would immediately trigger a rematch in round ones, and as a result, if it's possible to put another team above them, it would happen. Same thing would go for us honestly.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:48 pm to dawgsjw
I don't think it matters either unless 2 of the other conference champions and ND have 2 losses. The committee is going to avoid picking 2 teams from the same conference if at all possible. The it looks right now:
1. Georgia or Alabama
2. ND
3. Clemson
4. Oklahoma
1. Georgia or Alabama
2. ND
3. Clemson
4. Oklahoma
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:03 am to dawgsjw
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I think it is quiet obvious that UGA is ranked #1 to protect BAMA so when they lose to us in the SEC CG, they still can get in to the playoffs. What looks worse, losing to the #1 team, or being the #1 team and losing?
No way dude.
If anything it helps Georgia being ranked #1 and Alabama being #2 (assuming it stays that way).
Just for shits and giggles, say #2 Alabama beats #1 Georgia in the SEC Championship Game and Notre Dame wins out.
There is no way in hell the committee would put ND in the CFP over Georgia with a head to head loss and one less win overall.
Y'all are sitting in the best position of every team in college football right now. You can afford to lose the SECCG and still get in.
If Alabama loses they are out. You have an Ace in the hole my man.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:04 am to GurleyGirl
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I don't think it matters either unless 2 of the other conference champions and ND have 2 losses. The committee is going to avoid picking 2 teams from the same conference if at all possible. The it looks right now:
1. Georgia or Alabama
2. ND
3. Clemson
4. Oklahoma
Again, the committee showed tonight they are valuing head to head more than anything (see Oklahoma over Ohio State) and Georgia currently holds the best win in the country.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:23 am to S1C EM
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At least three commentators stated they've watched both teams and Bama is the better team. There's more than a "historical advantage" there.
All the same blowhards looked at MSU and thought they were better than UGA. The truth is yet to be determined.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:01 am to S1C EM
If I heared the chairman correct and I watched it twice he said it was very close and UGA is number one for this week because Bama did not have a good win over a ranked team minus what has happened to FSU. He went on to say that they may change after this week with Bama playing LSU. So to me that says if both Bama and UGA win Bama leap frogs UGA then the final straw is that both teams play Auburn and then each other in the SECCG. Bothers me not! shite feels good to be where we are so Go Dawgs!
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:16 am to S1C EM
Saban says he couldn't care less about the rankings this early. If he even acknowledges them he is a hack.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:45 am to S1C EM
We are one right now because Notre Dame had to be in the mix. I heard all night on ESPN U radio whil taking the kid Trick or Treating how ND was in the playoff poll ahead of all other one loss teams because their loss came "to #1 Georgia". Notre Dame HAS to be in......and right now that requirement is helping us.
If you look at it objectively Alabama has played no one. Notre Dame has played a much tougher schedule than Alabama. Notre Dame should be #2. Notre Dame and Mississippi State would or has beaten everyone Alabama has. I get that it's Alabama but what eye test have they passed? FSU is the only win they can hang their hat on and they are what, 3-5????
If you look at it objectively Alabama has played no one. Notre Dame has played a much tougher schedule than Alabama. Notre Dame should be #2. Notre Dame and Mississippi State would or has beaten everyone Alabama has. I get that it's Alabama but what eye test have they passed? FSU is the only win they can hang their hat on and they are what, 3-5????
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 6:53 am
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:47 am to TideSaint
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Just for shits and giggles, say #2 Alabama beats #1 Georgia in the SEC Championship Game and Notre Dame wins out.
There is no way in hell the committee would put ND in the CFP over Georgia with a head to head loss and one less win overall.
Y'all are sitting in the best position of every team in college football right now. You can afford to lose the SECCG and still get in.
I tend to agree. If we are #1 and lose to Alabama, we drop two spots and land at #3. That avoids an immediate rematch in the playoffs. Who knows. It is all speculation right now. I honestly didn't think we would jump Alabama in this poll.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:59 am to S1C EM
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would be about a 10 point favorite over Georgia.
Dawgs are 7-1 against the spread so I'm good with that
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:09 am to TideSaint
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No way dude.
If anything it helps Georgia being ranked #1 and Alabama being #2 (assuming it stays that way).
Just for shits and giggles, say #2 Alabama beats #1 Georgia in the SEC Championship Game and Notre Dame wins out.
There is no way in hell the committee would put ND in the CFP over Georgia with a head to head loss and one less win overall.
Y'all are sitting in the best position of every team in college football right now. You can afford to lose the SECCG and still get in.
If Alabama loses they are out. You have an Ace in the hole my man.
This is true - being ranked higher gives us more leverage to drop less after a loss, at least in theory
However, for 2 SEC teams to get in, we need no more than 2 other 1 loss contenders
I don’t think a 1 loss conference champion, or Notre Dame, will be snubbed for a 1 loss SEC CG loser
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:39 am to dcbl
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If anything it helps Georgia being ranked #1 and Alabama being #2 (assuming it stays that way).
This is true and that's the trick here....I don't think it will stay. Assuming Bama beats LSU (and we beat USCe), Bama will almost assuredly jump to #1. The committee just wants to be able to say they beat a decent team at this point. Had they beaten one as of last night, they'd already be ahead of us.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:43 am to dawgsjw
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I think it is quiet obvious that UGA is ranked #1 to protect BAMA so when they lose to us in the SEC CG, they still can get in to the playoffs.
that's quite the stretch. We're #1 because we have the better resume, period. Bama hasn't beaten a single ranked team all year, I believe their best win is Texas A&M. Then who..ole miss? Colorado State? I won't be shocked in the slightest if they overtake #1 next week after they drub LSU while we play an average SC. These rankings are going to change every week, so us being #1 in the first one means nothing.
And on another note, if the committe was somehow trying to "protect bama" (which is stupid anyway), they would put them at 1 so their fall wouldn't be as far assumign a loss to us in SECCG.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:03 am to S1C EM
Gambling lines with Alabama are misleading a lot like the Colts in the old Peyton Manning days. People don't feel comfortable betting against Bama regardless of the spread, just like people didn't feel comfortable betting against Peyton Manning back in the day.
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