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re: Chubbs last touchdown at Sanford Stadium.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:51 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:51 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Its hilarious that you defend him so.
How am I defending him? Do you think I'm glad he sold autographs and got suspended? I'm defending his talents on the football field.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:57 am to WG_Dawg
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How am I defending him?
Yet you call out those who shite on him because of his actions...in other words "everyone else does something."
Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:07 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Yet you call out those who shite on him because of his actions
Whatever you say. All I've said is that he's the second best RB we've ever had IMO, that's based on what I've seen of our running backs on the field. If people don't think he's 2nd best because other RBs were better that's perfectly fine, I mean it's just an opinion afterall. But I think it's questionable to say that he shoudl be knocked down a peg based on being suspended, or others should rise up because "they're DGDs".
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"everyone else does something."
And that's true. There are people on our team now that are doing things they aren't supposed to that could get them in trouble but as long as they aren't caught it's no biggie. But gurley was caught, so let's just throw him to the wolves.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:19 am to WG_Dawg
I think it depends on what you're evaluating... the most talented RBs at UGA? The most productive RBs at UGA? the metric matters... "best RB" means something different to a lot of people.
There is an old adage that holds true everywhere... "the best ability is often availability".
I think Gurley was failed by our administration, but it doesn't excuse him for doing something that he knew was against the rules and could make him ineligible... I think Chubb's product on the field while maybe not as "electric" as Gurley, is at least as impressive, so it's why I then slide to secondary measures like the intangibles that slide Chubb slightly ahead.
If you ask me who the most talented RBs to play at UGA, Gurley and Knowshon are probably both higher on the list than Chubb... but at the end of the day, you're splitting hairs in a lot of cases... we've had some incredible fricking RBs.
There is an old adage that holds true everywhere... "the best ability is often availability".
I think Gurley was failed by our administration, but it doesn't excuse him for doing something that he knew was against the rules and could make him ineligible... I think Chubb's product on the field while maybe not as "electric" as Gurley, is at least as impressive, so it's why I then slide to secondary measures like the intangibles that slide Chubb slightly ahead.
If you ask me who the most talented RBs to play at UGA, Gurley and Knowshon are probably both higher on the list than Chubb... but at the end of the day, you're splitting hairs in a lot of cases... we've had some incredible fricking RBs.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:30 am to fibonaccisquared
Meanwhile...back to the op title...has anyone either isolated the overhead view of the run themselves, or found the overhead view isolated?
FWIW Fib....Fr/So Chubb was more talented than Knowshon IMO. Gurley probably more talented even than Herschel, but different generations, no way to really compare. Herschel definitely outruns Gurley in a foot race, and Gurley probably doesn’t run for 150 against Bama in the SECCG in 2012 with a separated shoulder, but I think Gurley definitely has better vision than Herschel and definitely runs angrier.
FWIW Fib....Fr/So Chubb was more talented than Knowshon IMO. Gurley probably more talented even than Herschel, but different generations, no way to really compare. Herschel definitely outruns Gurley in a foot race, and Gurley probably doesn’t run for 150 against Bama in the SECCG in 2012 with a separated shoulder, but I think Gurley definitely has better vision than Herschel and definitely runs angrier.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:32 am to Jefferson Dawg
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Yet another reason to appreciate and respect Chubb more. He's not some opportunist import. Chubb has Georgia in his veins.
Gurley got thrown off the team for a boneheaded $600 mistake that he was entrapped into by a con artist Gator fan who was eventually ran out of the state to avoid prosecution.
When Gurley's suspension had been served, near the end of the season, with NFL already on his mind, he could have easily sat out the rest of the season and still been a round 1 pick, for millions of dollars, changing the course of his bloodline forever.
Instead, he came out to play out the season, and ended up tearing his ACL, putting his entire future in serious jeopardy, for the Georgia Bulldogs.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:22 am to fibonaccisquared
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I think it depends on what you're evaluating
Very True.
Herschel is Overall #1. Just because he's Herschel.
Chubb would be #2 Overall due to running ability and then all of the intangibles we've discussed.
Most talented runner I've seen would be Gurley for just being crazy slippery, always finding the hole and making it look easy. He still does it at the highest level and it's hard to figure out how. It's like some kind of voodoo magic.
I would probably put Sony #2 above Knowshon just due to his elusiveness, top end speed and he's fresh in my memory.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:59 pm to DawgHolliday
I was working the concession stand above where the UGA band sits. It had slowed down enough to where I was able to sneak out and watch some of the game. I had a perfect view of Chubb sprinting down the sideline, a moment I'll never forget!
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:30 pm to UGAnations
I get many will say Chubb is #2 based off his stats, but to me and others, Gurley clearly was more talented (not a knock on Chubb). Hell Sony has been the better back since Chubb's injury. In fact, I think it is Gurley, then Sony, then Chubb if we are ranking those three on pure ability. This is no knock on Chubb, but we just haven't seen Chubb be dynamic in the passing game like those two have. Granted, him not getting a lot of work catching ball is his main problem.
If you want to look at just the stats, then yeah Chubb is ahead of Gurley. But if are asking, who 'looks' the best out of Chubb and Gurley, it is Gurley ALL DAY!
Again, none of this is a knock on Chubb, but just goes to show how great Gurley was. And yes Richt basically hung Gurley out to dry, not to mention AJ Green as well. Why can schools like Ole Miss, Auburn, FSU, etc can all make the NCAA prove their case on their players, while we had a coach who basically turned on their players by giving them up. If Richt would have just had denied it and made the NCAA prove their case, nothing would have happened.
If you want to look at just the stats, then yeah Chubb is ahead of Gurley. But if are asking, who 'looks' the best out of Chubb and Gurley, it is Gurley ALL DAY!
Again, none of this is a knock on Chubb, but just goes to show how great Gurley was. And yes Richt basically hung Gurley out to dry, not to mention AJ Green as well. Why can schools like Ole Miss, Auburn, FSU, etc can all make the NCAA prove their case on their players, while we had a coach who basically turned on their players by giving them up. If Richt would have just had denied it and made the NCAA prove their case, nothing would have happened.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 9:04 pm to deeprig9
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Gurley got thrown off the team for a boneheaded $600 mistake that he was entrapped into by a con artist Gator fan who was eventually ran out of the state to avoid prosecution.
bullshite. Gurley knew what he was doing when he took the money. Nobody forced him to do it.
Nick Chubb has given his heart and soul to Georgia and he will always be #1 1/2 RB to me. Herschel #1, of course.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:56 am to AlaCowboy
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Nick Chubb has given his heart and soul to Georgia and he will always be #1 1/2 RB to me. Herschel #1, of course.
So how can one tell if a player gave their heart and soul for UGA? When Gurley was laying on the ground vs Auburn holding his leg, was that not him giving it his heart and soul for UGA? Gurley trucking guys vs Bama in 2012 @ the SEC Championship game, wasn't him giving his heart and soul to the program?
I don't see how one can say that Gurley didn't give his heart and soul to the UGA program just because he signed his name. GTFO here.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:46 am to dawgsjw
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I don't see how one can say that Gurley didn't give his heart and soul to the UGA program just because he signed his name. GTFO here.
You can refuse to see the obvious. No one can force you.
Gurley did a "me first" when he broke obvious rules for a little scratch. He got caught and the team had to suffer alongside Gurley.
This is as basic as it gets. Meanwhile, Chubb is toting the rock 30 times per game against average talent to help lead us to victory. Without Chubb to fill the void (Michel and Marshall were also hurt), we lose when we shouldnt.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 6:37 am to dawgsjw
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don't see how one can say that Gurley didn't give his heart and soul to the UGA program just because he signed his name. GTFO here.
He damn sure did when he was meeting that guy in the car selling autographs. I'm sure he donated the proceedings to UGA.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 7:45 am to meansonny
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Gurley did a "me first" when he broke obvious rules for a little scratch. He got caught and the team had to suffer alongside Gurley.
This is as basic as it gets. Meanwhile, Chubb is toting the rock 30 times per game against average talent to help lead us to victory
So the handful of you in here that subscribe to this logic as a reason Gurley shouldn't be higher on some "all time uga rb list", I assume of course that you think AJ Green isn't our best WR either? I mean he sold a jersey for money and also was suspended 4 games and left school early, meanwhile other guys gave their all for 4 years without any trouble. That's how it works right?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 7:46 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:07 am to WG_Dawg
I would like to hear the anti-Gurley crew’s opinion on Herschel’s car.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:26 am to WG_Dawg
My ranking is based on the overall career and contribution of each player. Gurley chose to accept money and got caught. That action hurt the team. Gurley chose to go pro after his injury. Chubb chose to come back for another year. All this is merely my opinion versus yours. Don't get all upset because I have a different opinion.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:28 am to AlaCowboy
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All this is merely my opinion versus yours. Don't get all upset because I have a different opinion.
Of course, I said earlier that all of this is simply opinions and nobody is wrong. I'm just curious that people can apply a pretty straightforward set of rules (did something against the rules, got caught, got suspended, hurt the team, left early) to one player as a reason to take him down a notch, yet not apply those exact same rules to another player.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:45 am to WG_Dawg
I don't recall AJ Green being mentioned as one of our greatest RBs.
But if you want to mention AJ, then he got screwed over the jersey. The jersey was given to him after the bowl game. He should have been allowed to dispose of it any way he wished, but I think he signed it so that would make it him profiting from his autograph, which is wrong.
And if leaving early is a crime, do you propose taking Herschel off the all-time great list for leaving early?
But if you want to mention AJ, then he got screwed over the jersey. The jersey was given to him after the bowl game. He should have been allowed to dispose of it any way he wished, but I think he signed it so that would make it him profiting from his autograph, which is wrong.
And if leaving early is a crime, do you propose taking Herschel off the all-time great list for leaving early?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:55 am to AlaCowboy
Well this is some sort of mental gymnastics you're using here.
No shite, how about a list of our best WRs? Does he get taken down a notch because of his actions or not?
You said he got screwed, but then also say he signed it for profit which is wrong. So which is it? If he got screwed then did gurley get screwed as well?
Never said it was, I jsut continue to see it used in reference to gurley/chubb that chubb stayed for 4 years as a reason he might be better than gurley.
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I don't recall AJ Green being mentioned as one of our greatest RBs
No shite, how about a list of our best WRs? Does he get taken down a notch because of his actions or not?
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he got screwed over the jersey. The jersey was given to him after the bowl game. He should have been allowed to dispose of it any way he wished, but I think he signed it so that would make it him profiting from his autograph, which is wrong
You said he got screwed, but then also say he signed it for profit which is wrong. So which is it? If he got screwed then did gurley get screwed as well?
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And if leaving early is a crime,
Never said it was, I jsut continue to see it used in reference to gurley/chubb that chubb stayed for 4 years as a reason he might be better than gurley.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:24 am to WG_Dawg
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I assume of course that you think AJ Green isn't our best WR either?
I don't know that there was anyone even remotely close enough to AJ to bring AJ's #1 status into question - he lapped the field even with all the ancillary stuff.
But if there was an equivalent player who didn't get suspended and stayed 4 years then yes - the same rules would apply. Most everyone here that is criticizing Gurley still has him in the top 3 - which is pretty good given #1 is universal.
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