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Biggest Difference between 2017 & 2018
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:46 am
Been randomly watching game highlights when nothing else to do
Big thing i noticed with the running game. Christian Payne!
Didnt see much FB use last year....but in 2017 Payne was opening up holes or making that one extra block that would spring the RB.
Did we not have a true FB last year or did they just go away from that?? I just dont remember seeing it much.
Big thing i noticed with the running game. Christian Payne!
Didnt see much FB use last year....but in 2017 Payne was opening up holes or making that one extra block that would spring the RB.
Did we not have a true FB last year or did they just go away from that?? I just dont remember seeing it much.
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:50 am to BoozeDawg
Kirby did away with the FB, I do believe.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:05 am to Spaceman Spiff
well damn.
Sure seemed to help in 2017. Maybe they didnt have a good option for 18.
Sure seemed to help in 2017. Maybe they didnt have a good option for 18.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:16 am to BoozeDawg
I would expect much use of a traditional fullback moving forward. Payne playing a role was a function of the roster Kirby inherited, but he’s said he doesn’t like having true fullbacks out there because they limit your options offensively vs a WR or TE type.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:19 am to BoozeDawg
I think that's a bit overstated, the FB is getting pretty archaic in today's offenses. There were a ton of reasons we weren't as good last year as in '17 but I don't think I'd put lack of FB use anywhere near the top.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:32 am to WG_Dawg
Lack of Nick and Sony and Isaiah Wynn maybe
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:41 am to DawgHolliday
yeah that's definitley a biggie. A few off my head in no particular order:
-lack of senior leadership
-perhaps (guessing here) a sense of complacency based on the previous year, compared to 2017 that was hungry to accomplish something
-obviously losing chubb and sony is going to decimate any RB room
-drama, whether real or perceived or on-field or off, with the QB situation
-lack of a known, established pass rush from the OLB
-losing our human eraser in roquan
-OT likely took a small hit. We went from SR Wynn and phenom Thomas, to phenom Thomas and RFr Wilson. Granted that's still better than probably 95% of teams out there but I do think it was a small step back
-Lack of a WR like Wims. Holloman is built similarly but Wims was a guy we could throw a jump ball to and he'd get it most of the time and we did so often in big moments. It doesn't feel like we had that same kind of guy last year. Obviously Ridley/Godwin/Hardman were there both years.
-lack of senior leadership
-perhaps (guessing here) a sense of complacency based on the previous year, compared to 2017 that was hungry to accomplish something
-obviously losing chubb and sony is going to decimate any RB room
-drama, whether real or perceived or on-field or off, with the QB situation
-lack of a known, established pass rush from the OLB
-losing our human eraser in roquan
-OT likely took a small hit. We went from SR Wynn and phenom Thomas, to phenom Thomas and RFr Wilson. Granted that's still better than probably 95% of teams out there but I do think it was a small step back
-Lack of a WR like Wims. Holloman is built similarly but Wims was a guy we could throw a jump ball to and he'd get it most of the time and we did so often in big moments. It doesn't feel like we had that same kind of guy last year. Obviously Ridley/Godwin/Hardman were there both years.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:48 am to WG_Dawg
I think it’s important to point out that despite all that, it’s not like UGA fell off a whole lot in 2018.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:04 am to WG_Dawg
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I think that's a bit overstated, the FB is getting pretty archaic in today's offenses.
Agree....but I still like to see a good FB dive play every now and then to keep things off balance for the opposing defense. And more often than not, it works.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:06 am to BoozeDawg
Biggest differences:
Roquan Smith was an eraser who fixed blown assignments from other players with his speed and amazing tackling.
Chubb and Michele- Holyfield, love the guy, but he was never elite. His lack of God given speed was not his fault but it cost us the big plays that Chubb and Michele- would have had in the same play.
Swift is absolutely elite, best rb in the country when 100% healthy.
Biggest difference.........
Javon Wimms, the guy was Fromms go to and was amazingly dependable when we needed a contested 3rd down catch beyond the sticks.
Roquan Smith was an eraser who fixed blown assignments from other players with his speed and amazing tackling.
Chubb and Michele- Holyfield, love the guy, but he was never elite. His lack of God given speed was not his fault but it cost us the big plays that Chubb and Michele- would have had in the same play.
Swift is absolutely elite, best rb in the country when 100% healthy.
Biggest difference.........
Javon Wimms, the guy was Fromms go to and was amazingly dependable when we needed a contested 3rd down catch beyond the sticks.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:20 am to WG_Dawg
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I think that's a bit overstated, the FB is getting pretty archaic in today's offenses. There were a ton of reasons we weren't as good last year as in '17 but I don't think I'd put lack of FB use anywhere near the top.
i totally agree, it was just something i noticed
This wasnt a "What was wrong with last year post".....a simple i saw payne bust some holes wide open and noticed we didnt use a fullback this year hahhaa
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:23 am to Crowknowsbest
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I think it’s important to point out that despite all that, it’s not like UGA fell off a whole lot in 2018.
absolutely, when looking at everythign I typed you'd think we lost 4 games. And I think as our recruiting continues to be elite we're going to be able to handle these big losses even better going forward.
I mean truly the only thing that gives me concern over the next like 7 year is QB play in 2020 assuming Fromm leaves early. We'll either have Mathis or a TFr which is kinda scary, especially with tuscaloosa on the schedule. Aside from that though I'm not worried about any position for a while.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:25 am to WG_Dawg
Going into T Town with Fromm would be ideal hahah
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:28 am to WG_Dawg
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We'll either have Mathis or a TFr which is kinda scary, especially with tuscaloosa on the schedule.
I mean, we won in South Bend with a TFr.
Also not that big a deal to drop a game at Bama, especially if it’s your only loss. Might be the best possible loss to take resumé-wise.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:38 am to BranchDawg
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I mean, we won in South Bend with a TFr.
while true, Fromm was a good bit higher rated than Beck and that ND team likely isn't half as good as whatever bama team we'll face.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:40 am to BranchDawg
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I mean, we won in South Bend with a TFr.
True....but Bama a tad tougher than ND.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:41 am to WG_Dawg
I think Fromm stepping in as a freshman also had a lot to do with the success in 2017, oddly enough. The team couldn’t get complacent because they knew they had a young guy they had to prop up and it made everyone better for it.
Obviously not the way you’d want to draw it up but it was one of those happy accidents that made that season special. Guys had to do their jobs because Eason wasn’t going to magically save them with his rocket arm
Obviously not the way you’d want to draw it up but it was one of those happy accidents that made that season special. Guys had to do their jobs because Eason wasn’t going to magically save them with his rocket arm
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:45 am to tylerdurden24
Thank god for Fromm....but i was excited to see what Eason was gonna do in his second year.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:48 am to BoozeDawg
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Thank god for Fromm....but i was excited to see what Eason was gonna do in his second year.
I think everyone was, I really hate how his story here ended. That guy could have been every bit as good as any QB we've had in recent memory if he could have just made the natural progression mentally. I have no doubt he's gonna be on an NFL roster for a while.
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:18 am to WG_Dawg
yeah he'll probably throw for a million yards on the west coast hahh
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