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re: Arkansas Board says Pittman is a possible candidate for HC job
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:05 pm to wdhalgren
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:05 pm to wdhalgren
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So you find it dumb that Tennessee would offer Pittman, maybe the best OL coach/recruiter around, a large raise to join their already overpaid staff?
I find it dumb that you think UGA wouldn't outbid UT.
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:11 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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I find it dumb that you think UGA wouldn't outbid UT.
Well, that would be dumb on your part, because I never said that they wouldn't. The thread topic is possible job offer for Pittman, and I raised another offer that I thought was possible. Never said anything about how UGA might respond, other than that these kinds of bidding wars lead to salary inflation. And Tennessee is definitely paying some high numbers that UGA wouldn't match the first go round.
I don't however subscribe to the theory that Pittman is a man who can't be bought. Could be wrong about that, but it's not very common.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:23 pm to wdhalgren
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The thread topic is possible job offer for Pittman
No, it's if he's a possible candidate for the Arkansas job, not job offers.
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I raised another offer that I thought was possible
It's possible. But you're probably forgetting that Friend is Pruitt's boy and he's not going to get rid of him.
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Tennessee is definitely paying some high numbers that UGA wouldn't match the first go round.
Because he wasn't performing up to task and wasn't worth the money. There's nothing out there that says UGA wouldn't match any offer for Pitt. Hell, they've already made him the highest OL coach in history.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:29 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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No, it's if he's a possible candidate for the Arkansas job, not job offers.
You're normally fairly reasonable, but this is a djdawg type of argument. The OP asked if we should be worried about Pittman leaving for Arkansas. I noted that a HC job at Arkansas isn't the only concern and gave a reason. If that's too far astray for you, with all due respect, I don't care.
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Friend is Pruitt's boy and he's not going to get rid of him.
I've read this and maybe so. I also know that Chaney started specifically working with the UT OL after their first two losses and continued working with them for over a month. Sometimes even when Friend wasn't in the frame. It raised some questions in the UT media. I don't assume anything when it comes to professional matters like this; loyalty only goes so far.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:37 pm to wdhalgren
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You're normally fairly reasonable, but this is a djdawg type of argument. The OP asked if we should be worried about Pittman leaving for Arkansas. I noted that a HC job at Arkansas isn't the only concern and gave a reason. If that's too far astray for you, with all due respect, I don't care.
So I point out you're incorrect and you pitch a fit. Nice.
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I've read this and maybe so
Maybe so? He's the whole reason Pruitt came to UGA and the first hire Pruitt made was to bring Friend on his staff. They played together at Bama. I think it's a safe bet that they're friends and he's not going to get rid of him.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:59 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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So I point out you're incorrect and you pitch a fit. Nice.
Well, at least I got a laugh out of this. You start with it's "dumb that you think UGA wouldn't outbid UT". Then when I point out that I never said that, you switch to "No, it's if he's a possible candidate for the Arkansas job, not job offers".
It's a fun process of moving the goalposts, but just for the record "I don't care" isn't my version of pitching a fit. I probably don't even know how to pitch a proper fit anymore.
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I think it's a safe bet that they're friends and he's not going to get rid of him.
Well, I'm still not willing to call that a safe bet. In my experience, the friendship is often secondary to the multi-million dollar salary.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:12 pm to SCDawg95
Sounds like wishful thinking. That would be the dumbest decision ever for Arkansas. As for him leaving to be their OL coach, it’s hard to imagine considering his recruiting classes and his salary. Arkansas is also a dump. Who would leave Athens for Fayetteville?
He’ll be gone at some point. Nothing lasts forever.
He’ll be gone at some point. Nothing lasts forever.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 5:46 am to SCDawg95
No. He’s not even a coordinator. Too much of a jump. Arky will only hire a proven HC or a really top-notch coordinator. Otherwise you can stick a fork in the program.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:08 am to HTDawg
Fayetteville is a really nice city. One of the better college towns.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:19 am to VADawg
Not that it matters a whole lot but the average American has an IQ of 98...that’s average as grits. Now, assume that the average American message board poster is likely 3-5 points higher than that...still not too bright. There is a lot of dumb in this country. We lag behind pretty much all of Asia and most of Europe.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:34 am to SCDawg95
I suspect Arkansas will go with a someone with coaching experience. Look for a Mike Leach...the Memphis coach...somebody along those lines. The AD has made one busy of a hire, he won't want to make a second one. He will go a bit safer.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:36 am to lewis and herschel
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Arkansas is more fricked than Tennessee, only a fool would take that shite show job.
Actually Tennessee has made tremendous strides this year. They are looking much better and have made some great signings for players. Pruitt is doing work there and I expect them to be really tough in the next year or two.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:41 am to wdhalgren
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And the amazing thing is that you'll almost never encounter a single one who identifies as being in the lower half. In fact, most go around calling everyone else dumb.
Isn't that exactly what you have been doing in this thread?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:41 am to DawgsLife
Yeah...Morris wasn’t really even tearing it up at SMU before the Hogs hires him. ..they (SMU) seem to be better off without him. Arky can recover, just have to make the right hire.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 6:52 am to DawgHolliday
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We lag behind pretty much all of Asia and most of Europe.
Not meaning to argue with you, but do you have a link showing this? I am curious. I mean, most of the world sends their best and brightest to be educated here. We only come into contact, as a whole with their best and brightest, so i was wondering if this is truly a fact, or if it is just our perception.
I mean we have tons of heart doctors who are Asian Indians, but do you think the average Indian is smarter? I am just curious, like I said. Not arguing.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:06 am to DawgsLife
LINK
Pretty easy to google. There are a bunch of different sites with similar lists. Singapore, Japan and Korea always way at the top. Most of Scandinavian countries pretty high as well.
I should add that education does not equal intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I know have advanced degrees. Conversely, some of the most intelligent people I have ever met are country as Hee Haw.
But, what do I know? I’m no genius myself. Just interested in such things.
Pretty easy to google. There are a bunch of different sites with similar lists. Singapore, Japan and Korea always way at the top. Most of Scandinavian countries pretty high as well.
I should add that education does not equal intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I know have advanced degrees. Conversely, some of the most intelligent people I have ever met are country as Hee Haw.
But, what do I know? I’m no genius myself. Just interested in such things.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 7:11 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:40 am to DawgHolliday
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Pretty easy to google.
I'm sure. But I am not totally interested, and I figured you had the link, so....thanaks for sharing.
quote:I agree totally. There are a lot of people thta are educated way beyond their intelligence level.
I should add that education does not equal intelligence.
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But, what do I know? I’m no genius myself. Just interested in such things.
Again. It was not meant to call you out....I was merely curious.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:43 am to DawgsLife
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Isn't that exactly what you have been doing in this thread?
I never denied being dumb. Who else tries to respond to angry people on the internet with real answers. That's about as dumb as it gets.
In my defense, I usually call someone dumb when they start arguing with things that I didn't say. But it's probably not a good description, because that's a generally accepted internet debating technique.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 8:54 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:53 am to DawgsLife
No worries Dawgslife...you are one of the most polite posters here. I know you meant no personal affront.
I just wanted to make clear that I wasn’t claiming any intellectual superiority myself. Just that the numbers for we Americans as a whole are not great.
I just wanted to make clear that I wasn’t claiming any intellectual superiority myself. Just that the numbers for we Americans as a whole are not great.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:25 am to DawgHolliday
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Just that the numbers for we Americans as a whole are not great.
The problem with those numbers is sample size and the sample itself. In the United States we have welcomed the least educated of the world as well as the better educated. Our schools teach everyone that comes, while many other countries teach the children of their business and political leaders, while the masses never see a school or a book.
My oldest daughter teaches in Marietta at a school that is part of the refugee program. Her students (technically 7th & 8th grade) are usually in a school for the first time in their life. Her job is to give them a basic understanding of how to learn, and behave, in school. Those students are included in scoring as are the others. Our averages are shewed by this.
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