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re: Yearly reminder: JerryWorld is a massive bust / attendance update only 59,437 for '23

Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:58 am to
That was an 8 PM kickoff. That wasn't primetime. That game was scheduled to end close to midnight!
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 6:53 pm to
8 PM is a prime time hour my dude.

Prime time TV hours are 7pm-10pm CST.

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Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:25 pm to
Most prime time shows aren't 3½ hours long either.

I'll end by asking you this; you think we would have a chance at winning on Saturday if this game was in Fayetteville?

I certainly don't think so.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:40 pm to
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I'll end by asking you this; you think we would have a chance at winning on Saturday if this game was in Fayetteville?

Yes. We'd almost certainly be a small (1-3 pt) favorite. Not a lock by any means, but it's crazy to say we would not have a chance.

We've won 7 straight home/away vs USC. Bama has beat us 9 straight home/away. LSU beat us 6 straight home/away. These sorts of win streaks happen all the time. I feel like people are attributing way too much credit to the neutral site for our 6 game win streak at Jerryworld.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:01 pm to
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Yes. We'd almost certainly be a small (1-3 pt) favorite. Not a lock by any means, but it's crazy to say we would not have a chance.

You do realize we opened as a -4 point favorite at Jerryworld?

Given our current QB and O-line situation, I think we lose if we play in Arkansas. It's a coin flip at Jerryworld.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:12 pm to
I saw -5/-6 when lines were released yesterday. Either way, it's no worse than a toss up if the game is in Fayetteville, so I don't understand the insistence that we lose that game.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 3:15 am to
Agree with absolutely all of that. It’s the worst.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:13 am to
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I'll end by asking you this; you think we would have a chance at winning on Saturday if this game was in Fayetteville?


Yes I do and to want to keep it at JerryWorld b/c you are scared we might lose more games to Pig is chickenshit coward talk.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:15 am to
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Yes I do

Common now! There's no way we win this game if it was in Fayetteville. No chance!
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want to keep it at JerryWorld b/c you are scared we might lose more games to Pig is chickenshit coward talk.

So you would rather lose with pride than to strategically deny the enemy of a massive advantage?



You play to win the game by any means necessary. This is why we pay Jimbo a massive salary. This is why our assistants are some of the highest paid in the country. This is why we spent so much in our training facilities. This is why our recruiting budget is massive. This is why we (very likely) outbid other schools for recruits to come to A&M.

We are trying to build up as many advantages over our enemies as possible.

Are you saying we don't need any of those things either? Does owning these advantages make us look like chickenshit as well? Maybe we should stop investing so schools like Arkansas can catch up to us? We wouldn't want to look like chickenshits for denying Arkansas of some of the recruits we've taken from them!

No offense, but this "chickenshit" argument may be one of your dumbest ones yet. Strategically speaking, there is no valid reason for us to give up Jerryworld unless we were the ones on the end of a 9 game losing streak.

NONE!
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:13 pm to
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This is why we pay Jimbo a massive salary.


We pay Jimbo to be the best in the conference. If he can't beat Arkansas in Fayetteville he's not worth the $9m salary. So yes, your argument that we need to deny them ever having home field to beat the Pigs is chickenshit. Never mind that if home field is so important for Jimbo to win a game you are denying us a massive advantage at Kyle. Why take that away from us? It goes both ways. If Jimbo can't win on the road against Arky than he isn't winning the conference and we aren't going to be good enough to get to any bowl worth a damn anyway.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 3:34 pm to
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So yes, your argument that we need to deny them ever having home field to beat the Pigs is chickenshit.

Does our recruiting advantage over Arkansas also make us chickenshit? Maybe Jimbo should start sending some talent over to Arkansas so we can stop having such a huge chickenshit advantage over them.

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Never mind that if home field is so important for Jimbo to win a game you are denying us a massive advantage at Kyle.

Kyle Field > Jerryworld > Fayetteville

If you ask me, two Jerryworld's > Kyle Field+Fayetteville when it comes to ease of winning. We outnumber them every single year and our players love playing there.
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If Jimbo can't win on the road against Arky than he isn't winning the conference and we aren't going to be good enough to get to any bowl worth a damn anyway.


Maybe we should be fair and pay the next coach the same as Arkansas? God forbid we take advantage of our resources and our opponents' terrible choices

You strike me as a real anti-Sun Tzu .
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:53 pm to
You are making the weirdest argument and it really makes no sense to start taking about paying their coaches the same as us or having a recruiting advantage b/c we are located in Texas.

I love CFB b/c it's fun as frick. Playing at JerryWorld is not as fun as going back and forth between home fields at A&M and Pig. IDGAF that it's an "advantage" every other year to player at JerryWorld and we really don't outnumber them to the point that its giving us some huge edge that should never be given away. I've been to JerryWorld for 6 Pig games and both Cotton Bowls. It's a lame venue and going out there sucks.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:46 pm to
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You are making the weirdest argument

Are you denying that Jerryworld is more of an advantage to us than it is to Arkansas?
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Playing at JerryWorld is not as fun as going back and forth between home fields at A&M and Pig

But it's not about you. If playing there helps us with recruiting, then why give it away? Because you don't like it?
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IDGAF that it's an "advantage" every other year to player at JerryWorld and we really don't outnumber them to the point that its giving us some huge edge that should never be given away.

We really do outnumber them. The atmosphere has always been in our favor.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:48 pm to
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Are you denying that Jerryworld is more of an advantage to us than it is to Arkansas?


I'm saying that our crowd advantage isn't large enough to be that big of a deal. We have more but it's not to the point that we are blowing their crowd out of the water.

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But it's not about you. If playing there helps us with recruiting, then why give it away? Because you don't like it?


It doesn't help as much as you think and our athletic department wanting out of it plus the the attendance being trash indicates it's not just me that thinks it needs to go away. I'm sorry but the series being there has been an abject failure. It's never drawn the numbers or attention needed to justify it being there. People flat out do not want to pay bowl prices for a game that should be a regularly priced part of their season ticket packages and even with additions like Texas Live Arlington is an incredibly lame place to go hang out. It's just not a draw.

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We really do outnumber them. The atmosphere has always been in our favor.


But not to the point that it's that big a deal.

Again, I've been to 6 of them. We are not bringing in so many more fans that it makes much of a difference.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:31 pm to
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I'm saying that our crowd advantage isn't large enough to be that big of a deal. We have more but it's not to the point that we are blowing their crowd out of the water.


Completely disagree. Our buddies who usually stay outside tailgating say they can hear the difference between the A&M crowd and the Arkansas crowd during big plays.

The advantage is ours.
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It doesn't help as much as you think

How so? It's been documented that the players like it.
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and our athletic department wanting out

Our department wants out because our fan base keeps keeps crying about it.
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plus the the attendance being trash indicates it's not just me that thinks it needs to go away

I wouldn't call 60k+ trash for a neutral site game.

Trash is what the BUTT bowl used to draw at Jerryworld.
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I'm sorry but the series being there has been an abject failure. It's never drawn the numbers or attention needed to justify it being there.

So what is the number it needed to draw? Because IIRC, we got paid for the game one way or another.
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People flat out do not want to pay bowl prices for a game that should be a regularly priced part of their season ticket packages

It's not like Kyle Field is cheap .
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and even with additions like Texas Live Arlington is an incredibly lame place to go hang out. It's just not a draw.


You keep complaining about this, but the game wasn't even intended for the "bar" crowd.
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Again, I've been to 6 of them. We are not bringing in so many more fans that it makes much of a difference.


I say it does.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/25/21 at 9:19 am to
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We really do outnumber them. The atmosphere has always been in our favor.


But not to the point that it's that big a deal.


Not true at all. 12th Man deafens that place. Remember how loud it always is on D towards the end of the game? Come on.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/25/21 at 8:45 pm to
Welp. I can admit when I'm wrong. I thought it would be 64-67k that showed up to the game.

Instead it was just under 58k. LINK

BUST CONFIRMED
This post was edited on 9/25/21 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 10:32 pm to
another terrible attendance at Jerry World w/just 59k this year.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 5:13 am to
We won 11 of the last 12 there, maybe it should stay there
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19185 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 11:12 am to
The tickets are F’ING expensive for a sterile environment vs college stadiums.
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