re: Jimbo Fisher Staff Thread

From FSU's 247

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Texas A&M: There’s some truth to this one. The Aggies will very likely part with head coach Kevin Sumlin by Sunday, according to the Houston Chronicle. After speaking to several sources close to the A&M program, it’s clear Jimbo Fisher is their number one target, and at this point, their central focus. TCU’s Gary Patterson is really the only other name being talked about now, but the primary goal is to flip Fisher from FSU. That’s a fact.


Fisher and new Texas A&M AD Scott Woodward have a pre-existing relationship from their time at LSU. This is Woodward’s first hire at A&M and he’s looking to make a splash by bringing in a big name, experienced and proven head coach.


Will it happen? We’ve asked around and while almost everyone we speak to thinks Fisher remains at FSU, there is some hesitation to completely shut the door on him leaving. The atmosphere surrounding the program and Fisher himself is different from in years past where he reportedly turned down job offers from LSU and Auburn. I can officially say, this is a situation that deserves your attention. A&M is going to pursue Fisher with a lot of money, resources and an opportunity to start fresh.

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I don't know what happened this year because I don't follow Florida State, but I see he lost two games basically on that last play of the game (one against playoff bound Miami). He lost another by 6 points. So even this really bad season was agonizingly close to a 7-9 win season.

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That wouldn't fly with y'all when it comes to Sumlin. Why should Jimbo be excused?

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The lesson as always is look at all the data. Take the extreme with a grain of salt because if you stick around long enough, weird shite happens.

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The meltdown from certain posters after being completely noncompetitive in a 32 point loss to Boston College would be never ending. Several would say it's proof the HC was shite and should be fired.

What the hell happened with the media? Sumlin's firing has been widely discussed for 3 weeks, even with direct questions to him, and then all of a sudden 4 different publications decide to run a story on it on the same day? Why do we always do this to ourselves?

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Because he’s won a national championship, three conference championships and won the Orange Bowl last year. Is this a serious question

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He won a title 4 years ago. Since his last ACC title they have had at least 3 losses every year. They have a bunch of double digit losses and three 30+ losses since that natty. He has been passed by Dabo Swinney and Mark Richt in the ACC.

I"m sorry but most of you guys would not be making excuses for him if that was happening here. You just wouldn't. Hell, FSU fans aren't excusing this season either. This isn't some 8-5 hiccup. They are 4-6 and had to reschedule a game vs ULM that they originally canceled just to hopefully make a bowl.

Also, IDGAF about him winning a BCS title and three ACC conference titles at Florida State. That didn't happen here and it hasn't happened at FSU since 2014 (when they were embarrassed by Oregon in the playoff). FSU has been trending down post Jameis.

Again, I just don't see why we have to go all in on Jimbo and only Jimbo. We should be having a real search where we interview several coaches.

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Also, IDGAF about him winning a BCS title and three ACC conference titles at Florida State.

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I think it would be best if we just signed Sumlin to a 5 year deal where he makes zero unless he wins at least 10 games


Problem solved

I get that those games go down as losses, no matter how close they were, but we know he's had a ton of success in the past. So when you dig into this season and find that 2 of the games came down to the final ten seconds, and another was competitive, it indicates that this season wasn't the coaching debacle it appears to be on the surface. He simply had a lot of injuries and experienced a few outlier game endings, so his final record took a beating.

If he had no coaching history, I sure as hell wouldn't be okay with hiring him, but given the 7 years prior to this one, I'm not too worried.

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We’ve had 5 or more losses every since 2012 with zero conference championships. We’ve been passed by Mississippi State. FSU finished 8th in the AP last year

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This isn't about our current coach so I don't see why you are bringing that up. It's about how Jimbo has been trending down, is having a horrible season, and is running away from it b/c we are stupidly about to offer a contract that will be even more onerous than what Sumlin has if he fails. It's about how we are being foolish by only looking at one guy and ignoring everyone else. It's about offering the only person we are even looking at a contract so big it will be impossible to fire him if he can't do any better than Sumlin.

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I would be because the whole national championship 4 years ago and finishing in the top ten last year thing

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You say this now but I don't believe you or anyone else that says so b/c 4 years of winning nothing and a slew of double digit losses changes minds really fast.

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Also, IDGAF about him winning a BCS title



lmao

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I really don't. That's great for his career at Florida State. But he won't have done that here and again, he is clearly trending downward at FSU right now.


If this was a real coaching search and we talked to more than one guy?

Yea, I wouldn't have nearly the same amount of reservations. But it isn't a real search.

They've zeroed in on a guy who is running from a disastrous season b/c Woodward is friends with him.... Just like Sumlin was zeroed in on b/c he was friends with the right people.... Just like Sherman was zeroed in on b/c he was friends with the right people... Just like Fran.... just like RC... The last time we hired a coach who wasn't buddy buddy with right people was Jackie and he wasn't even our first choice.

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You say this now but I don't believe you or anyone else that says so b/c 4 years of winning nothing and a slew of double digit losses changes minds really fast.

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Actually you’re right. I have no idea how I would react after four years of winning like FSU experienced, because myself and no other Aggie fan has literally ever experienced a period like that in their lives

I think it’s hilarious you’re using this news to try to show everyone how good and rational of a fan you are, but you do you. I am going to use it to be excited about A&M football for the first time in over a year

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You're doing exactly what you're complaining about - bitching endlessly without any semblance of context.

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Disagree about the lack of context if you go through the posts where I lay out why I don't like having tunnel vision on the coaching search.

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Step back for a moment and think about whether you're part of the solution or part of the problem.

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The problem has been we don't have real coaching searches. The problem is we have been hiring coaches who are friends with the right people instead of actually going out and talking to multiple people before making our decision.