re: Lots of Jesus signs at gameday the past few weeks

We got a wild one here folks

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You are a sinner. You have broken the law of God and are guilty of treason against the King of the universe. You will have to pay for those sins for eternity if you do not change your ways and believe that Jesus Christ, the very son of God, obeyed the law in your place and died as a payment for the guilt of your sins and was raised from the dead.

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You believe what you want man, but trying to proselytize on a sports message board is weird, off putting, and completely useless in every way. You will not convert anyone.

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The religious nut jobs are in full force today.

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Jesus wouldn't need 8 overtimes to beat a 7-5 team in his own stadium with help from the refs.

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The only thing saved by the death of truth is the lie.

Taxi Cab Jesus does not exist. If you believe in him, you will do as he did. Which means you will follow the path, thus following the laws of god, and THAT is what will save you.

The PATH Jesus talks about is a REAL THING. YOU are required to walk it, not someone else. The sacrifice Jesus made is that he didn't have to be here, he didn't have show people, he could have lived his life peacefully. Instead he showed people the truth, the way and the light so they could walk that path. And he was murdered for it, and then Paul comes along with his fake vision and turns it into an idol.

It's not that hard to follow the real laws of God if you understand them, which is again what Jesus actually provided.

You would never catch a cross on my body. Start looking at the life of Jesus rather than his death.

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This is the lie.

Works do not save you. Faith plus nothing equals salvation.

Works come after salvation as you strive to follow Christ, who you have already accepted.

So if that man you called out has accepted Christ, and as he said, repented, then he is saved. His struggle to walk the perfect path and be without sin is the reason Jesus came to earth and became our sacrifice in the first place. Because we all fall short and our works are as filthy rags, in relation to saving your soul from hell.

If works could save you the story of the thief in the cross would not exist, as he had no opportunity to follow in the steps of Christ. But he believed and Jesus said Today you will be with me in paradise.

I agree that those who know Christ should repent and turn from their sin and take their salvation seriously but your works will not save you. Only Jesus can do that.

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I don't believe the Spirit is fake, but God has spoken to us by His Word and the Bible is His word written for us. It is a guide for us to help us know that the Spirit is actually the Spirit rather than a demonic spirit leading us astray. Many people say they are following the Holy Spirit when they sin.

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All you are doing is replacing God with a book, while at the same time allowing the book to dictate to you what God is and so on.

Of which you don't actually even follow.

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The Spirit does provide understanding, but according to the inscripturated word of God in the Bible. If God had intended the Spirit to provide all knowledge apart from the Scriptures, the He wouldn't have bothered to have the Bible written down to begin with.

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Men can not give to other men in the same way the spirit can. When I gained understanding I had a hard time explaining things to other people. When some Christians pointed out to me the things I was saying were things similar to what Jesus said, I was actually amazed. I knew he was telling the truth, and it also helped provide context in which I can communicate to other people.

For example, what I call the holy spirit does not actually go by such a name. It's just a way for me to express to other people what it is, because I recognize it by it's function.

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If you think any of the Bible is not true, then you do not have the Spirit at all and I urge you to repent.

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Why have you not answered my question about the rich man? Who is right? Jesus or the Church?

Do you know what it means when it is said the holy spirit can speak in tongues? Do you think that is some other language? Or do you understand it means these things are available to anyone, regardless of their culture? Understanding is universal, the way people express it can vary.

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This is false.

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Only if you believe the things the bible talk about aren't really true. Which is because you haven't experienced them, because you don't actually do what it tells you do to. You just worship the idol.

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Why do you believe some of the Bible and not all of it? You seem to be picking and choosing what you want to believe here.

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Because the bible is a collection of books that were chosen by men who were creating a religious state that Jesus warned about and is of the same type that murdered Jesus.

Do you think we should kill people if they don't plant their crops right and all that? Or can you understand those are clearly the laws of men, not God?

What was the entire function of Jesus if NOT to tell those of his time the exact same things with regard to how they treated all these things?

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Jesus says that He alone is the path to salvation. The rest of the Scriptures confirm this. It is by trusting in Jesus' works by faith that any man is justified.

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Only by looking for the truth, the way and the light will you come by the father. Not the idol Christianity has created.

This is the reason idol worship is forbidden. The idol ends up replacing the spirit/meaning/understanding.

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Jesus is the incarnate word of God. Jesus, Himself said that everlasting life exists within Him and it is only by receiving Him by faith that anyone partakes in it.

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Faith is not blind acceptance. It is said to be like a child. Why? Because a child does not pretend to know anything, and thus asks questions openly without bias for the sole purpose of finding the truth.

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Christ is the rock. Understanding is understanding that Jesus saves, not some gnostic higher spiritual understanding that seems to be an end to itself.

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Jesus says Peter is blessed because of his understanding that was given to him by the father, which allowed him to recognize Jesus.

Which I can funny enough understand for the exact same reasons. When I read the words of Jesus I recognized the father within him. It was very comforting because I felt somewhat alone prior to that and it was reliving to see someone else with the understanding.

Wouldn't have been possible without the understanding given to me.

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You are rejecting the truth of God's word and embracing what seems to be a reincarnation of gnostic beliefs.

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There is only 1 true teacher, and it's not of men. That is where I got my understanding, I do not belong to any "beliefs". Gnostic just means with knowledge, so yes I am gnostic in that manner, but I do not belong to any religion.

You are supposed to be gnostic as well according to Jesus. You should have the understanding given by the father. You even quote and talk about the verses, yet just seem to only think of it as believing in the idol.

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I urge you to put your trust in Jesus Christ, not in this gnostic "understanding" that you are clinging to.

Put your trust in Jesus Christ who alone grants understanding of the gospel of salvation

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. -1 John 5:20

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I already have understanding. It is because of that understanding that I recognize the father within Jesus, which is exactly what your verse says.

Hell, you can outright prove to me that Jesus never existed and it wouldn't change anything for me. Because I know that at a minimum whoever wrote the story knew the father, because I know the source of the understanding that's being presented by him, his character or whatever.

All I've really said is you should pay more attention to his life and see it's his life and example that you should follow in order to keep the commandments.

You just want me to believe in his idol and that I'm saved by his death because it's impossible that anyone can walk the path, even though he says you will if you really believe.

So, I'll stick to the real thing thanks.

I believe God is the Creator, and as such is beyond space and time, and is, therefore, unchanging.

I believe Jesus tried to teach the nature of God.

I also believe since his death, his follows have been misled.

I also believe that the people who tried to get you to worship Jesus on the First Day, also gave you this:



CLEARLY, that's going down the wrong road.

It's men who over-complicate the message in order to gain power over other men. Love God, love one another.

I'll pray for you, brother.

And the path/way is a real thing. And only by following the commandments can one get to heaven. It is required.

As was shown to me, if you are a thief, you can not live in a society without theft.

If you are a murderer, you can not live in a society without murder.

And so on.

Your very presence will destroy that society. Believing in Jesus and then still doing those things is NOT going to change these facts. These are the reasons why you are here to start with, learning the difference between good and evil.

Those who teach people to just believe in the idol and they can do whatever do so because that allows them to do things opposite of it. You can say it's Satan or express it anyway you wish, but the result is the same - present day society, which hasn't really changed that much in the past 2000 years outside technology.

Free will allows us to choose the paths we follow. Tomorrow you can go out, rob a bank, murder a bunch of people, and the world you live in will look much more hellish from that point on. You can go out tomorrow and do the opposite of that, help people or just be an honest and moral person and the world will be that much closer to heaven.

It's not just rules because God felt like it and just randomly picked them, and there is no entity going to pick you up and deliver you. GET TO WALKING.

And that's the truth.

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I'm still confused. Can you please give me a straight answer.

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...Said every single Christian ever.

I recommend starting with this:

Don't put others up with God. NO others.

Worship God, not things or ghosts.

Don't call on God frivolously.

Remember the Sabbath is the Seventh Day, keep it Holy.

Love God.

Love one another.