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re: The LSU vs. A&M DB Throwdown, Taylor Hamm is Cordially Invited

Posted on 2/26/13 at 12:11 am to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 12:11 am to
"LSU locked out of Texas 4eva, aggy iz rizing."

-aggy fan after 2013 5th place SEC finish
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 12:14 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 12:20 am to
The Longhorn board is pretty butthurt over this as well. Apparently they have a hard time grasping the fact that Paris is originally Louisiana and instead just making the assumption that UT just sucks that much right now and LSU is obviously paying him.

Shaggybevo
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 12:54 am to
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First 5 star ever?? Huh??



UCF. My secondary school that I root for. It's where I go to school. Paris was on an unofficial here last week. We haven't ever gotten a 5 star before. Hell, we rarely ever get 4 stars.

@323Eddie_P
At UCF with my brother @Based_Jarius the girls out here good lord!!!
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 12:56 am
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 7:38 am to
That is one old thread
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:57 am to
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Paris is originally Louisiana


You can take someone out of Louisiana but you can't take Louisiana out of them.

Congrats to LSU on the early commit. So now let's divide the top recruits between LSU and A&M and leave the Longhorns the scraps.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:19 am to
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But I thought LSU was going to be locked out of Texas with A&M in the league now?


It must really kill them that we're gonna nab the best player in the state and three of the top four or five corners in the state.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 12:03 pm to
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That is one old thread



you can tell because they say they are losing Paris because he is associated with a handler. Since then they have hired Larry Porter, who is the king of paying handlers.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 6:42 am to
And now the dominoes will begin to fall.... Up next Mr. Brown
Posted by AGBQ99
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:00 am to
Good get LSU...but not the number one player in the state of Texas.... Hoza Scott says hi.

Hoza Scott Junior Highlights
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:04 am to
congrats, we'll take 2 of your top 5
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:05 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:17 am to
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Good get LSU...but not the number one player in the state of Texas.... Hoza Scott says hi.

Hoza Scott Junior Highlights


More A&M spin. He's not the #1 player anywhere...and as stated numerous times no gives a f*** about "Liucci's" rankings.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:18 am
Posted by AGBQ99
Cedar Park, TX
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:51 pm to
Yes...Tony Brown is # 1...excuse my mistake...huge difference between the # 13 player in the country and # 23.

2014 Rivals 100
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 1:59 pm
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 2:18 pm to
Paris is a great pickup for LSU without question and I don't think A&M ever had a shot. He is from LA so he is going home. Katrina put a bunch of LA kids in Texas and they want to go back where much of their family and friends are from. That's not exactly a statement on how LSU is getting traction in Texas.

Tony Brown isn't much different, he lives about 30 miles from the Louisiana border. That is still Texas and if you get him that's great for you but the Golden Triangle area is really the only part of Texas that is equally distant from BR and College Station (with BR being a straight shot down the Interstate).

Hardeman is a more solid "get" from Texas. I don't think he had any LA ties.

It's foolish to think LSU is "shut out" of Texas but I do think the rise of A&M has affected their ability to cherry pick. RSJ and Parker were good examples from last year. I think A&M will get as many kids out of LA as LSU gets out of Texas though in the end. It's natural especially for the 350 or so mile stretch between the schools is going to be a battleground going forward more than ever for many reasons. It is also valid that whatever happens on the field this Fall could swing prospects from one side to another. That annual game between the schools is growing in importance all the time.

As for Paris, he is an exceptional talent and deserving of his attention. Anyone saying he isn't an elite prospect is foolish, though like all athletes he has flaws. Is he truly the BEST prospect in Texas? Hard to say. I'm absolutely thrilled with Hoza Scott, he's an absolute freak. Without question though Paris, Brown, and Scott are all Top 5 players in Texas though.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 2:23 pm to
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I think A&M will get as many kids out of LA as LSU gets out of Texas though in the end


the difference is we'll get kids yall want, you'll get kids we pass on.

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It is also valid that whatever happens on the field this Fall could swing prospects from one side to another.


disagree, kids do not choose a college because of who wins or losses a specific game.

Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:05 pm to
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Yes...Tony Brown is # 1...excuse my mistake...huge difference between the # 13 player in the country and # 23.


you make a point to say your guy is #1 out of the blue, then when you find out a different future LSU guy is #1 then the difference between 1 and 2 is no big deal. lol
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:06 pm to
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It's foolish to think LSU is "shut out" of Texas but I do think the rise of A&M has affected their ability to cherry pick. RSJ and Parker were good examples from last year.


meh. Same stuff happened with some Texas kids in the past, see Archie McDaniel.

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I think A&M will get as many kids out of LA as LSU gets out of Texas though in the end.


with mutual offers? no
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:48 pm to
Yeah, it's not like A&M will get John David Crow or Billy Cannon Jr or Bucky Richardson. Sorry but if you base your thoughts on what will happen in the next few years is only impacted by this last decade that was the best ever for LSU and the worst in the modern era for A&M you are in for a shock. A&M has always been able to pull kids out of Louisiana when we are good.

It's also hard to judge sometimes how much a school wants a player even based on an offer. Texas under MB is famous for not offering kids that they didn't think they could get so they could pull the "we didn't offer" card. I'll put it to you this way. A&M will get at least as many Top 20 kids in LA as LSU gets of the Top 20 in Texas over time. Last year A&M got Ellis and Claiborne, LSU got no one from Texas. This year LSU is off to a strong start in Texas but A&M is also in on several LA prospects.

Continue to underestimate A&M if you wish though, Texas and OU did.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:57 pm to
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Texas under MB is famous for not offering kids that they didn't think they could get so they could pull the "we didn't offer" card. I'll put it to you this way. A&M will get at least as many Top 20 kids in LA as LSU gets of the Top 20 in Texas over time. Last year A&M got Ellis and Claiborne,


Are you claiming that LSU didn't offer Claiborne and Ellis because we didn't think we could get them?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81647 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:17 pm to
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It's also hard to judge sometimes how much a school wants a player even based on an offer. Texas under MB is famous for not offering kids that they didn't think they could get so they could pull the "we didn't offer" card. I'll put it to you this way. A&M will get at least as many Top 20 kids in LA as LSU gets of the Top 20 in Texas over time. Last year A&M got Ellis and Claiborne, LSU got no one from Texas.


do you need any semantics cleared up on Ellis or Claiborne? No offer in any way ever.


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Yeah, it's not like A&M will get John David Crow or Billy Cannon Jr or Bucky Richardson. Sorry but if you base your thoughts on what will happen in the next few years is only impacted by this last decade that was the best ever for LSU and the worst in the modern era for A&M you are in for a shock. A&M has always been able to pull kids out of Louisiana when we are good.


3 white guys in 50 years. Congrats.


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Continue to underestimate A&M if you wish though, Texas and OU did.


And what did it cost them? You ran away from their conference because Texas got preferential treatment. They have recent national titles, you have one regular season win over Bama.

I think you need to focus on not over-estimating having one good season and thinking the world revolves around you now. Sumlin will be in the NFL within 3 years and Johnny Football will be gone before that and you'll be back to the team that nobody notices.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:02 pm to
Yes, you are right. We will always suck in spite of all our money and resources and being the only SEC team in Texas. LSU also will always be the greatest team ever because they had a great decade after winning a half dozen SEC Titles over the previous 70 or so years. No LA kid ever goes OOS if LSU offers either, it just can't happen.

Thanks for clearing that up guys. It's good to know that all those years where we dominated recruiting in both states and beat LSU consistently on the field can never happen again since you say so. LSU is an invincible machine that can never be beaten or lose a recruit. Got it. Good to know Sumlin is going as well, I mean we kept Sherrill and Slocum when the NFL and everyone else came calling but those days are gone now. Well it was fun while it lasted.
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