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re: Now ND signee Eddie Vanderdoes wants LOI release.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 8:41 am to TheOcean
Posted on 5/21/13 at 8:41 am to TheOcean
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Hey, look at that. I found three separate news articles all saying that MT won't be granted his release. Where's the drama?
It's because MT hasn't come out and said publicly "I want to go to UCLA but FSU is forcing me to stay here". The situation still sounds pretty fluid and he seems uncertain of where he wishes to be. MT's potential negative response will be the catalyst to the drama.
ETA: And this potential situation will be made worse if EV is granted a realease
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 8:47 am to The Nino
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It's because MT hasn't come out and said publicly "I want to go to UCLA but FSU is forcing me to stay here". The situation still sounds pretty fluid and he seems uncertain of where he wishes to be. MT's potential negative response will be the catalyst to the drama.
ETA: And this potential situation will be made worse if EV is granted a realease
Logic. It does exist.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 8:55 am to JStanDawgFan
I'd love for those 2 n Simmons to go to USC n bring back lane frickin Kiffin days.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:01 am to JStanDawgFan
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If either ND or FSU release Vanderdoes or Thomas and the other school doesn't, it could really be a PR nightmare for the school that forces either of them to stay.
It looks like Vanderdoes is wanting to go to UCLA...
No worries. Both can sit out a year, and have 4 years to play 4. No different than redshirting other than not learning the playbook. The Ocean is just a little butthurt that someone doesn't want to go there. We all know that some coaches release players for the PLAYER's (18yr old kids) best interest and some don't. It really doesn't matter to me if they release the LOI (contract, I understand). Personally, I just think the school doesn't have the best interests of the kids when they don't help them out. That is all.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:01 am to The Nino
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Some are saying MT's mom pressured him to go to FSU fwiw
.. My parents pressured me to do things all the time that I ended up not doing. I think that's the case for most people. I don't view that as a valid excuse. If he would have held out, she would have signed his LOI elsewhere.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:06 am to AUsteriskPride
quote:Different people, different situations. I really don't know anything about the situation other than message board fodder
My parents pressured me to do things all the time that I ended up not doing. I think that's the case for most people. I don't view that as a valid excuse.
ETA: and moms be crazy...remember the Arky commit whose mom stole his LOI before he could fax it?
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:10 am to JStanDawgFan
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My point is simply that today's media could have a field day with these schools if one did and the other did not allow it. National media certainly has no problem dragging anything NCAA related through the mud as it is already.
All the college football reporters I've seen have talked about the dangerous precednt that would be set if Thomas was released from his LOI. They seem to be going after the athlete who had 2 or 3 years to make his decision, instead of the school or coach.
ND and FSU should not release those kids, and any backlash is completely undeserved.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:11 am to The Nino
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ETA: and moms be crazy...remember the Arky commit whose mom stole his LOI before he could fax it?
Oh no doubt, that was insane.. Luckily she came to her senses. I had a taste of crazy mama drama when I enlisted in the military
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:17 am to JStanDawgFan
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JStanDawgFan
I misread your initial post, my bad. I've been in a coffee induced haze while being stuck in a library
My point still stands, though. There may be some drama, but it will blow over and won't negatively affect recruiting.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:23 am to TheOcean
I see the negative attention not being as powerful in the media but amongst the recruiters. Coaches will do negative recruiting against FSU saying that they only care about the player not the person, and they will point to MT as proof. I'm not saying it is true, but people will use this against Fsu.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:29 am to JStanDawgFan
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It looks like Vanderdoes is wanting to go to UCLA...
check his bank account. OM lock
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:30 am to dawgfan4life10
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I see the negative attention not being as powerful in the media but amongst the recruiters. Coaches will do negative recruiting against FSU saying that they only care about the player not the person, and they will point to MT as proof. I'm not saying it is true, but people will use this against Fsu.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:34 am to dawgfan4life10
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I see the negative attention not being as powerful in the media but amongst the recruiters. Coaches will do negative recruiting against FSU saying that they only care about the player not the person, and they will point to MT as proof. I'm not saying it is true, but people will use this against Fsu
I definitely see that happening as well, but FSU is still going to get kids. The ripple effect of releasing him could potentially be far worse than that of not releasing him.
If anything, not releasing him should make him an example of how not to handle the recruiting process. Don't commit on TV if you're not sure. Don't sign a letter if you're not sure. Make your decision and stick by it. Hopefully that's what the media will say. But I'm sure ESPN will still want guys to announce on TV whether they're ready or not.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:38 am to dawgfan4life10
FSU will always have top classes whether there is negative recruiting or not. More often than not negative recruiting is also not a benefit
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:50 am to TheOcean
Who wants a kid on their team that doesnt want to be there...seems like an easy decision to me
Free Matthew Thomas and Eddie Vanderdoes
Free Matthew Thomas and Eddie Vanderdoes
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:18 am to 318Boss
If ND doesn't release their kid, you can count on the national media Irish ball-washers to fall in lockstep defending ND - and, by extension, FSU. The only way FSU gets any minimal flak for this is if ND lets their kid walk. Then the morally superior types can contrast the enlightened Irish with those evil Southerners that take college football too seriously.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:25 am to SoFla Tideroller
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If ND doesn't release their kid, you can count on the national media Irish ball-washers to fall in lockstep defending ND - and, by extension, FSU. The only way FSU gets any minimal flak for this is if ND lets their kid walk. Then the morally superior types can contrast the enlightened Irish with those evil Southerners that take college football too seriously.
The media has already been on FSUs side, even before the ND stuff came out. No need for the conspiracy BS here.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 12:44 pm to 318Boss
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Who wants a kid on their team that doesnt want to be there...seems like an easy decision to me
Free Matthew Thomas and Eddie Vanderdoes
This but I wouldnt just let them go. They would have to sit out.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 6:55 pm to JStanDawgFan
I thought fsu would release Thomas, but I can't say that I disagree with their decision. I hope nd follows suit. Recruiting has become a circus and alot of these kids already act like they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:19 am to SoFla Tideroller
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If ND doesn't release their kid, you can count on the national media Irish ball-washers to fall in lockstep defending ND - and, by extension, FSU. The only way FSU gets any minimal flak for this is if ND lets their kid walk. Then the morally superior types can contrast the enlightened Irish with those evil Southerners that take college football too seriously.
You shouldn't just release the kid unconditionally. Sets a horrible precedent for the future when recruiting. Let him go, but he signed the contract (yes, a LOI is a contract). Nobody forced him to sign with ND on Signing Day. If I was Kelly and EV seriously wanted to transfer, I'd allow him to go to any team not on the schedule (and also no UCLA/Bama, the top two other teams he was considering) and not be eligible to play this season. I wouldn't pull a Gundy, but I think limiting him to no teams on the future schedule and no UCLA/Bama is fair and puts ND in a good position in the future when recruiting to not set a horrible precedent where kids feel comfortable signing with ND, then "nope, I changed my mind!" and feel they can just get out of it.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 11:20 am
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