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re: Matthew Thomas is seeking release from his FSU scholarship

Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 7:46 pm to


How am I a miserable person? Would you feel the same if he signed a military contract and didn't want to report to boot camp because he got cold feet?

Or should student athletes receive special treatment, especially if they're five stars?

That's the way the world works. Don't want to be bound by something - don't sign the contract. Pretty simple, he wasn't forced to do so. I have absolutely no pity for him.

FYI - FSU's staff has known about this for a few weeks and Jimbo has no plan to let him off the hook.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:00 pm to
Let's say Jimbo leaves for the NFL. Would you be mad at FSU for chasing after coaches that are currently under contract? I don't see that as a big reach between the two.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:01 pm to
Big difference. Jimbo would either have a clause in his contract in which he could get out or he (the NFL team) would have to pay the contract damages.
Posted by Lord of the Board
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:02 pm to
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Would you feel the same if he signed a military contract and didn't want to report to boot camp because he got cold feet?
The two are different. There is a difference between signing a contract with the government saying you are going to work for them and signing a piece of paper saying you wanna play some football for a school while you go there.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:03 pm to
Obviously there's a difference. There would be a difference in any analogy I used.

And really, the difference between working or going to school on a full ride to play a sport is not that great.
Posted by Ermahgerd
Athens
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:10 pm to
I think you feel this way because one of your best recruits wants out. If he was committed to UGA and wanted to go to FSU I would want him to be cut loose without repercussion. I am proud of the fact that the man leading my alma mater would do just that.
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:10 pm to
I love how this is a breach of contract, but a sschool and turn around and tell a kid, I know you signed a LOI, but actually , we don't have room for you, so either pay first semester or find another school. I feel as though, if a student can't get out of a LOI without enrolling, then maybe teh school should also be deducted an additional scholarship if they end up not honoring the LOI for the first semester. That seems fair.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:12 pm to
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I think you feel this way because one of your best recruits wants out. If he was committed to UGA and wanted to go to FSU I would want him to be cut loose without repercussion.


Nope. In fact, FSU is absolutely loaded at LB. There is really no better position for FSU to lose a 5* recruit.

It's a matter of principle. The right thing, in the real world, is to enforce the contract.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

I love how this is a breach of contract, but a sschool and turn around and tell a kid, I know you signed a LOI, but actually , we don't have room for you, so either pay first semester or find another school. I feel as though, if a student can't get out of a LOI without enrolling, then maybe teh school should also be deducted an additional scholarship if they end up not honoring the LOI for the first semester. That seems fair.


That's a whole different issue. And yes, I think that is unfair on the student athlete. And like I said before, if MT's ONLY option was to sign a LOI, then I would 100% have no issue with him trying to back out.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:16 pm to
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Big difference. Jimbo would either have a clause in his contract in which he could get out or he (the NFL team) would have to pay the contract damages.



You missed my point. Would you be mad that FSU hired someone who had to break his contract?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:19 pm to
Not at all. American contract law encourages breaches. But, guess what happens? You pay the damages.
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:22 pm to
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That's a whole different issue.


Oh, rly?

Please explain how one is a breach of contract that should be punished, and the other is not?
Posted by dawgfan4life10
Member since Sep 2012
528 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:26 pm to
I'm pumped right now!! I know its recruiting so anything can happen but right now I am thinking through what kind of impact he will make freshman year wearing the red and black :nana:
Posted by Ermahgerd
Athens
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

I'm pumped right now!! I know its recruiting so anything can happen but right now I am thinking through what kind of impact he will make freshman year wearing the red and black



Don't get too excited. The Ocean knows what Matthew Thomas is thinking even more so than he does. He is either USC or FSU so we should just move along.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:36 pm to
You literally have a better chance of walking outside and getting run over by a naked cowboy on a horse than seeing MT in a UGA uniform this year

Posted by dawgfan4life10
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:41 pm to
look at it from this family's perspective. His mom basically made him sign with FSU to stay close to home. If he doesn't go to fsu, its LA or athens. He has family in georgia. His mom is probably way more comfortable for him to be at uga.

Either the coaches convince him to stay at fsu or he goes to uga Go dwags!!!
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:54 pm to
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How am I a miserable person?

Not enough space in this thread.
Posted by dawgfan4life10
Member since Sep 2012
528 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 10:18 pm to
your logic makes a lot of sense considering we are one of 4 teams in consideration. Fsu (no way the coaches convince him), miami (fsu won't let him go in the acc), USC (other than uga most likely but if distance is a problem for his mom why would his son go to LA) and uga
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:22 pm to
Ocean have you heard the tampering stories? Seems like Kiffin has been doing it

I asked a friend and the deal is if FSU doesn't grant a release out of the L.O.I. (That's all it is) if the NCAA doesn't waive his release (most get immediately waived and side on the kids side) he has to follow standard transfer rules and sit out a yr

If he gets released out of L.O.I. or the NCAA waives it he will have an immediate release and be able to enroll anywhere immediately
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:45 pm to
Like Trey said fair balance and let him come to Bama just gotta convince some coaches

Seriously though I'd rather him play in the SEC at UGA than that frickbag tampering Kiffin
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