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re: Laura Mckeeman reports Nkemdiche names LSU leader
Posted on 3/21/12 at 8:13 pm to TideWarrior
Posted on 3/21/12 at 8:13 pm to TideWarrior
Think he and his dad are calling the shots more than some realize.
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Posted on 3/21/12 at 8:28 pm to LsuTool
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So Saban has produced 1 first round Dlineman in 5 years at bama, with Jesse Williams projected to make it #2 in 6 years?
That really isn't surprising, considering we have mostly space eaters for our 3-4. Guys like Marcel Dareus and Robert Nkemdiche, that could grow into a 3-4 DE, don't grow on trees. Regardless, Nkemdiche is an extremely versatile defensive player. He has a size to play DE in a 3-4, but the athleticism to play Jack LB. There are so many things you could do with him in a 3-4 alignment.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 8:45 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Yeah, but he would need to either gain or lose weight for the 3-4. He could play at LSU as is in our 40 front
Posted on 3/21/12 at 8:49 pm to memphisplaya
He's going to get bigger. He's 17 and already 6-5 260. And it's not like Alabama doesn't employ a lot of four man fronts in their nickel and dime packages.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:23 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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He's going to get bigger. He's 17 and already 6-5 260. And it's not like Alabama doesn't employ a lot of four man fronts in their nickel and dime packages.
He's probably going to end up at ~280 even if he doesn't "try" to put on weight. In an SEC S&C program he could get up to 300. He will end up playing inside if he goes to a 4-3 team. If he wants to play DE or the hybrid OLB/DE that we used Upshaw as (I don't think you can legitimately classify Upshaw as a OLB based on how often he played with a hand down) then he will go to a 3-4 team.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:25 pm to Robot Santa
Inside? You're crazy.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 9:40 pm to memphisplaya
He has the frame to add a lot of weight, and he is still growing in general. If he ends up getting upwards of 300 pounds, he would almost certainly play inside in a 4-3. He's a freak, but so are Mario Williams and Julius Peppers, and even they have never played DE at that weight. It really all depends on whether he puts on weight. If he stays around 275 he's a perfect 4-3 DE. Anything more than that and he's definitely a candidate to move inside. It's a hell of a lot harder to find an interior lineman with that kind of explosiveness.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:26 pm to Robot Santa
Robot, he plays on the Outside in a 4-3. Ego Ferguson, Brockers, and livingstone are guys we moved inside. Nkemdiche is more built like Montgomery. There is no question he is a DE in the 4-3
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:42 pm to memphisplaya
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Robot, he plays on the Outside in a 4-3. Ego Ferguson, Brockers, and livingstone are guys we moved inside. Nkemdiche is more built like Montgomery. There is no question he is a DE in the 4-3
I think everyone is getting starry eyed with RN and don't realize the cold hard facts. He is going to hit 300. He's a 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE.
He has the athleticism to play 4-3 DE and maybe Jack, but it's like, why? He would be dominant at any position, but he'd just be hindering himself playing DE or Jack at that weight.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 10:53 pm to memphisplaya
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Nkemdiche is more built like Montgomery.
Montgomery weighed maybe 235 pounds coming out of highschool. Nkemdiche is already, as a junior, around 260-265, and he carries it like a TE. He's going to get a lot bigger.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 11:18 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
Still a long way to go. I do think LSU's 4-3 offers him the best chance at a bigger payday in the NFL, but it ain't like he is not going to get paid if he goes to bama.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 11:25 pm to Robot Santa
Currently at 260# RN's body fat is so low that he has cramping issues. He is trying to add weight to help with that and add muscle. If he is able to do both this spring and summer he will be at 270 to 275 by NSD. Add a summer of college strength and conditioning and he will be a 280# true freshman. By his Soph year he will be pushing 295~300. Great size for a 3-4 DE with his speed and quickness he would be a perfect strong side DE playing 5 tech and sliding to 7 tech for the dime package.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 11:41 pm to T Rey WI
Mario Williams was listed as 6-6 250 coming out of high school. He excelled as a DE in Houston's 3-4 defense at 6-6 300.
There are 13 current NFL teams using a 3-4 alignment.
There are 13 current NFL teams using a 3-4 alignment.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 11:43 pm to T Rey WI
He would be better off stayin around 270# for $.
NFL pays DE's who can put pressure on QB a lot more than big bodies.
NFL pays DE's who can put pressure on QB a lot more than big bodies.
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By his Soph year he will be pushing 295~300.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 11:44 pm to dljtigers
He's far more athletic than Marcel Dareus, who was 6-4 320 when he left Alabama. Dareus cashed in as a top ten draft pick. Robert Nkemdiche will do the same.
Posted on 3/21/12 at 11:49 pm to CapstoneGrad06
RN=GRINDIN 
Posted on 3/21/12 at 11:50 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Mario Williams was listed as 6-6 250 coming out of high school. He excelled as a DE in Houston's 3-4 defense at 6-6 300.
He played at 6-6 285 and played Jack. He just moved to a 4-3 D to play DE.
Of course KN would be a great 4-3 DE, DT, 3-4 Jack or 3-4 DE.
It just depends on which he would rather play and which is the best for his future stardom.
I would argue that 4-3 DE trumps 3-4 DE in terms of usefulness and star power, but that could be debated. Also, 4-3 DE is a rusher, while even if it's not all the time, he'll be taking up space in the 3-4. 4-3 is just obviously a better defense for a DLineman to play in.
Posted on 3/22/12 at 12:05 am to CapstoneGrad06
No doubt he will make money, but in NFL speed at DE pays better than big bodies. Calais Campbell at 6'8" and 300# is the only DE over 275# making more than 10M with 6 others from 260 to 275#.
Suh at 307# DT makes 9.2M. When I looked at NFL salaries by position no other DT made more than 7M.
He is athletic and the NFL pays better for people who can get to QB quick and often.
Suh at 307# DT makes 9.2M. When I looked at NFL salaries by position no other DT made more than 7M.
He is athletic and the NFL pays better for people who can get to QB quick and often.
Posted on 3/22/12 at 1:06 am to CapstoneGrad06
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I will gladly accept a ban bet.
You folks take this stuff way too seriously, and way too personally. Just bitch and whine like a normal fan when he doesn't sign with Bama.
This post was edited on 3/22/12 at 2:15 am
Posted on 3/22/12 at 7:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
Tyson Jackson played DE at LSU at 6'5 290. This kid has more speed than Tyson did.
He can get up to 280-290 and still play outside at LSU if he's as advertised.
You cant put someone with his speed inside, it's too wasteful. U have to get your moneys worth out of his athleticism and you cant it with him playing DT.
He can get up to 280-290 and still play outside at LSU if he's as advertised.
You cant put someone with his speed inside, it's too wasteful. U have to get your moneys worth out of his athleticism and you cant it with him playing DT.
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