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You knew it was coming (at least us smart folks did)...college players now unionizing

Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:54 am
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 6:54 am
Penn State has now become the first chapter of unionized football players in the nation.

Led by quarterback Sean Clifford, Penn State players are asking for revenue sharing and want better medical care.

The tweet adds that The College Football Players Association is already in negotiations with the Big Ten.


Stick a fork in college football...it's done! LINK
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132190 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:01 am to
Do we get replacement players if they go on strike?
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
3666 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:05 am to
They should be paid something. How much that should be? Who knows.

I wonder how this effects stuff down stream. Are non revenue sports toast because in theory many schools could potentially be forced to pay football players with revenue that once subsidized other sports? Does title 9 somehow force universities to pay equal amounts of money to both make and female athletes? There’s certainly tons of details needing ironed out
This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 7:21 am
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95866 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:05 am to
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Stick a fork in college football...it's done!


So dramatic

How dare they want a slice of the pie and better medical care

Devils
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24951 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:06 am to
Better medical care? Don’t they have everything paid for already? What’s better than that?
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9163 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:07 am to
You beat me to it :)
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13027 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:16 am to
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How dare they want a slice of the pie and better medical care

The problems will quickly come when they grossly overestimate their slice of the pie.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:17 am to
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JetDawg


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us smart folks

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Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:23 am to
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College Football Players Association


Just for the record the CFPA is not a labor union.
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
3666 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:25 am to
Wonder if schools could counter by saying if we pay you an actual salary then you can no longer transfer anywhere you want? Schools should lock in their players for more than one season now. Perhaps this could eliminate most transfers in college sports. You essentially sign an employment contract with your university but can no longer play anywhere else unless the school grants the transfer in exchange for salary and benefits?
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:26 am to
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JetDawg

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us smart folks

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Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:27 am to
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Just for the record the CFPA is not a labor union.

Correct, but it is acting as one on behalf of the players.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:32 am to
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You essentially sign an employment contract with your university

Interesting idea, but If players become state employees, think of the issues this could cause.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2960 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:35 am to
No compete clause
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
1843 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:42 am to
Some idiots try this every year.

Remember the covid season bullshite.

I guess getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in "nil" money isn't good enough already
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:42 am to
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Correct, but it is acting as one on behalf of the players.


That is their goal but it is in no way a union. Membership is also open to high school athletes as well.

Another thing that article fails to address is NIL has not made any college athlete an employee. Since NIL does not reclassify them as such they can not form a union at PSU.

Until the NRLB classifies college athletes as employees it will not matter what they want to call themselves. Because without the employee tag they will never be recognized as a union.
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
1843 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:43 am to
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Wonder if schools could counter by saying if we pay you an actual salary then you can no longer transfer anywhere you want? Schools should lock in their players for more than one season now. Perhaps this could eliminate most transfers in college sports. You essentially sign an employment contract with your university but can no longer play anywhere else unless the school grants the transfer in exchange for salary and benefits


Can they start trading or cutting non performers mid season as well?

You don't perform you get shipped to D3 in a salary dump
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:45 am to
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Better medical care? Don’t they have everything paid for already? What’s better than that?


They are are actually seeking medical care for life that may happen down the road from sustained injuries while playing in college like the NFL does. I believe one of the founders of the CFPA was not able to get medically cleared for the draft due to injuries while playing in college.

So for that I understand and support.
This post was edited on 7/23/22 at 7:50 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11827 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:49 am to
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Penn State has now become the first chapter of unionized football players in the nation.


You might want to correct this or at least point out they are not a legal or recognized union under any law. So they have no rights or collective bargaining power.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 7/23/22 at 7:52 am to
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Until the NRLB classifies college athletes as employees it will not matter what they want to call themselves. Because without the employee tag they will never be recognized as a union.

This is true. However, if they do become employees and eventually become a real union, this will be the nail in the coffin for the NCAA. The rules on transfers, pay for play, etc will all go out the window and will be agreed upon by the collection of schools (conferences) and the players union.

Honestly, this is better than the Wild West we currently have. There is already de facto pay for play with “NIL”. This could be huge in leveling the playing field across the board.

I think you will eventually see the mega conferences split off from the NCAA and become their own college football entity. It will essentially be pro ball. It sucks to see college football as we know it come to an end, but with how much money is being made by schools, coaches and networks, it was inevitable the players would eventually want their piece of the pie.

Everyone will say this will “ruin” college football, but the product on the field won’t change for the worse. People will still watch.
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