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re: Worst SEC QB play in 2012

Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:44 pm to
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Kiehl Frazier

Makes Jordan Jefferson look like Cam Newton.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:45 pm to
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They clearly do fall below Auburn on that list.


OK, but that just says "statistics lie" to me. Frazier made me think Chizik just grabbed some random guy off the street and handed him the ball. Fans of other teams seem to agree, so it wasn't just the A&M game. And weirdly, his replacement in the game wasn't any better.

I'm not trying to be (too much of) a jerk here and am actually sympathetic - if Auburn had an adequate QB you'd have had a much better season.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Frazier


We played more than one QB BTW, its a team ranking

quote:

his replacement in the game wasn't any better


6/9 122 13.6 2

6/11 89 8.1 0

Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41557 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:48 pm to
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I think we were down to 3rd stringer Whitlow at that point and possibly had to travel with a scout team QB as backup due to injuries too. 

Ah that would make more sense then. I just remember that being possibly the worst QB play I had seen in a long time.
Posted by FormMorm
Member since Jul 2012
389 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:48 pm to
Mandatory JFF mention, no wonder he's taking a break from twitter...
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
108354 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:52 pm to
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Ah that would make more sense then. I just remember that being possibly the worst QB play I had seen in a long time.


Yeah it got bad. Max Smith got hurt early with his shoulder and ankle and was out for the season, Morgan Newton was Morgan Newton (also dealt with injury as well), Jalen Whitlow played as a true freshman, and when he stalled they burned Patrick Towles redshirt and he got injured on his second drive for the season. It was bad.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
92844 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:54 pm to
Agreed. I couldn't sense the sarcasm.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:55 pm to
Auburn's and it wasn't close.

Auburn had 15 picks on 257 attempts.

Mizzou had 14 picks on 414 attempts.

Auburn's passer rating was slightly better but our overall numbers sucked.
Posted by wdeinttown
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2011
2976 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

OK, but that just says "statistics lie" to me.


The statistics aren't lying at all. Clearly, the collective QB rating for Missouri was worse than Auburn's. Does that mean Missouri's QB play was without a doubt worse than Auburn's? No. But it does show that a case can be made that it was.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134272 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Mandatory JFF mention


Already covered
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:03 pm to
Say what you want about how shitty UF's passing game was last year, but they were more efficient than they looked. Their job was not to turn it over and they were succesful in that regard in every game but 2.

It's amazing how Scott Loeffler took two pretty good passing teams in UF and Auburn and completely destroyed them in one year of coaching at each school.

Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Kentucky was last in the league with a team QB rating of 89.50.



That's what happens when your starting QB goes down early in the season and you have to play a true freshman...
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

The statistics aren't lying at all. Clearly, the collective QB rating for Missouri was worse than Auburn's. Does that mean Missouri's QB play was without a doubt worse than Auburn's? No. But it does show that a case can be made that it was.


I know injuries play a factor with every team, but Mizzou's oline was decimated before the season even started. Enough injuries that they eventually had to start a walk on.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

The statistics aren't lying at all.


Statistically, the average American has one testicle. Argue with that.

quote:

Clearly, the collective QB rating for Missouri was worse than Auburn's. Does that mean Missouri's QB play was without a doubt worse than Auburn's? No.


That's all I was trying to say. Mizzou's QB (who wasn't the injured Franklin) against A&M was... not great but not awful. Frazier was just awful. Hope you guys come up with something better soon.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:24 pm to
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In 2012, Kiehl Frazier was the worst quarterback I've ever seen. Unprepared, gun shy, sketchy in the pocket, and flat out inaccurate. He looked like he had never played quarterback before.

And thus the clear front runner for 2013.



Abso-frickin'-lutely! Gussy'll get him right. Lashlee was pretty solid against shite competition in the Gus offense at Shiloh too. If those two can't turn him into a Josh Floyd, nobody can.


and I called his benching at half against Arkansas in August!
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
19780 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:30 pm to
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Frazier was probably the worst QB I have ever seen start multiple SEC games.


Agreed.. The first half of the MSU of game I remember my friend telling me Auburn may not win an SEC game if Frazier was the best they could do.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64517 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:52 pm to
Damn, I didn't ever by in to the whole "Mettsiah" thing but i still can't believe we are ahead of LSU
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12422 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 4:55 pm to
Frazier was hands down the worst qb to ever start for Auburn. He threw that one gorgeous bomb against Clemson, but whoopdy frickin doo.
Posted by Wrenchruh
Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2012
2413 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:38 pm to
Is Kiehl Frazier the Jake Holland of quarterbacks, or is Jake Holland the Kiehl Frazier of linebackers?

This is an important question that needs to be answered.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13804 posts
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:39 pm to
Frazier was bad, but Morgan Newton had to be worse.
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