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re: Won't this whole playoff system fall apart?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:23 am to TreyAnastasio
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:23 am to TreyAnastasio
Loser of SECCG would most likely beat any of the other 3 teams in the play off.
SEC is in line for a royal screwing.
SEC is in line for a royal screwing.
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:26 am to Herman Frisco
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Loser of SECCG would most likely beat any of the other 3 teams in the play off. SEC is in line for a royal screwing.
This, and you can be damn sure that if both teams are undefeated and the game is close, the bitching will be loud.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:27 am to Herman Frisco
What about the third SEC team that didnt make the SECCG? Like Arkansas a few years ago, and Florida last year.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:29 am to PrivatePublic
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Won't this whole playoff system fall apart?
The moment the selection committee selects a team outside the top 4 at the end of the year?
The selection committee is just a horrible idea. As others have stated, they should just keep the current BCS rating system (two large polls and a computer component) and go with the top 4.
Every system has bias but when you use something like the BCS with hundreds of data inputs (hundereds of voters, computers, etc.) you actually take a lot of the bias out because of the larger sample size cancels out individual bias. When you just use a few data inputs (i.e., the selection committee) you keep more bias in the process.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 9:31 am
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:30 am to Herman Frisco
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Loser of SECCG would most likely beat any of the other 3 teams in the play off.
SEC is in line for a royal screwing.
Yes, but it gives the eventual SEC Champ a little breathing room to drop a game or maybe even two.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:37 am to PrivatePublic
Yes. Delaney was staunchly anti-playoff. Then two SEC teams made the championship. Once a B1G Champ misses the 4 team playoff, there will be an 8 team playoff.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:40 am to TreyAnastasio
I would be willing to bet the only year that would of had 2 SEC teams in it was 2011.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:42 am to Jma313
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They should just use computer rankings and the top 4 get in. Leave biased people out of it
Yep.
BCS + playoff = best system no doubt
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:44 am to PrivatePublic
The match ups (seeding) will be controversial too. #1 LSU and #3 Alabama (in coaches/AP/etc) suddenly become 2/3 or 1/4 to avoid an all SEC final.
I've always said that I MUCH prefer the idea of a fan base bitching that "they are good enough to be #4" rather than the #3 or #4 team ending the season confident they were the real champion.
No BCS year has ever had 4 dominant teams or 5 undefeateds.
My only issue is the idea of a clouded, mysterious, secretive committee sweeping in and doing some magic Sun AM after the whole season has been played. The Polls and the BCS poll have had consitancy and transparency. We may lose both here.
I've always said that I MUCH prefer the idea of a fan base bitching that "they are good enough to be #4" rather than the #3 or #4 team ending the season confident they were the real champion.
No BCS year has ever had 4 dominant teams or 5 undefeateds.
My only issue is the idea of a clouded, mysterious, secretive committee sweeping in and doing some magic Sun AM after the whole season has been played. The Polls and the BCS poll have had consitancy and transparency. We may lose both here.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:50 am to Blawdawg
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I would be willing to bet the only year that would of had 2 SEC teams in it was 2011.
You're going to lose money pal
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:55 am to Lordofwrath88
With all the anti-SEC sentiment; it will not happen often. Tell me a year it would in this century. Not last year. I don't care what UF was ranked, they would of been left out.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:57 am to Tiger Live2
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With all the anti-SEC sentiment; it will not happen often. Tell me a year it would in this century. Not last year. I don't care what UF was ranked, they would of been left out.
2009 Florida.
Was 12-0 before losing to 12-0 Bama.
Had a senior Tebow at QB.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:04 am to FlukerFlakes
Had forgotten about them, but without Tebow they don't have the name to do it. But even still they may not of. TCU would of been in and possibly another team. I would have to go look at the final rankings. Maybe Boise or Cincy.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:09 am to Tiger Live2
I think Cincy was undefeated.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:14 am to TreyAnastasio
People will bitch no matter what method is used.
People want THEIR team in, they don't care about anything other than that.
4 teams is more than enough and the committee will get the right teams in.
There will be years where it's razor thin and debatable as to who is 4 and who is 5, but guess what, TOUGH. You are playing for #1, if you're #5 you probably aren't number 1.
It keeps the regular season important too, just getting to 4'ish is dangerous, you may not get a spot, you still wanna go undefeated and finish in the top spot to ensure you get in, etc.
People want THEIR team in, they don't care about anything other than that.
4 teams is more than enough and the committee will get the right teams in.
There will be years where it's razor thin and debatable as to who is 4 and who is 5, but guess what, TOUGH. You are playing for #1, if you're #5 you probably aren't number 1.
It keeps the regular season important too, just getting to 4'ish is dangerous, you may not get a spot, you still wanna go undefeated and finish in the top spot to ensure you get in, etc.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:19 am to BIG DADDY 73
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I think Cincy was undefeated.
And they got crushed by Florida by 40 points in the Sugar Bowl
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:19 am to BIG DADDY 73
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I think Cincy was undefeated.
Yea they were, and looking at the BCS rankings. It was Bama 1, then UTx, Cincinnati, and then TCU. UF was 5th. I doubt UF would of made a 4 team playoff with a 15 person committee. I still say, I think the only year it would of happened was '11. I will also say if you and Arkansas had flipped resumes, that they are left out and only one SEC makes it. The name of your school matters almost as much if not more than how good you are in college athletics.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:20 am to FlukerFlakes
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And they got crushed by Florida by 40 points in the Sugar Bowl
Where would that of mattered if there was a 4 team playoff in 2009?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:23 am to Tiger Live2
That's the great thing about a playoff, you can put in undefeated frauds and they will get weeded out in the semi-finals. The championship game will always be 2 legit teams.
The Hawaii's, Cincinnati's, and Notre Dames of the world can get a spot, get exposed and destroyed, without ruining the title game.
The Hawaii's, Cincinnati's, and Notre Dames of the world can get a spot, get exposed and destroyed, without ruining the title game.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:35 am to TeLeFaWx
Yes. Delaney was staunchly anti-playoff. Then two SEC teams made the championship. Once a B1G Champ misses the 4 team playoff, there will be an 8 team playoff.
Agreed
And it should be 8 teams! SEC, ACC, Big 10, PAC 12, and Big XII with autobids, and 3 open slots
1st round should be at home stadiums, SEMIS at bowl sites, and Championship at the rotating location
Agreed
And it should be 8 teams! SEC, ACC, Big 10, PAC 12, and Big XII with autobids, and 3 open slots
1st round should be at home stadiums, SEMIS at bowl sites, and Championship at the rotating location
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