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re: Wonder how many teams are going to run No-Huddle Spread Offense in 2013

Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:23 pm to
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I don't think I said it was exclusive to the spread offense (or spread option), I think that is your statement
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Seems to me, you need a running QB to get away with that type of offensive strategy.

So you're saying that you need a running quarterback to get away with any type of offensive strategy?
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:23 pm to
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Seems to me, you need a good offensive coach to get away with that type of offensive strategy.


FIFY. All of the teams with really good no-huddle spread offenses have an exceptional offensive mind in charge like Chip Kelly, Gus Malzahn, Chad Morris, Kevin Sumlin, etc... You need a good coach to execute that strategy more than anything.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:24 pm to
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Problem that I'm seeing is that the "D" is keying on the Rb with pure pocket passer...if QB can pull and run then defense has to respect fake of dual threat thereby leaving a running lane for back



You are mistaking a zone read-option offense for a HUNH spread.
Posted by jrevonte
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:24 pm to
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So you're going send enough men at and around the offensive line to take away the entire run game, while at the same time locking down every single one of the high number of receivers that a spread employs. Either you're working with Nick Saban-like talent at every single position, or you're running the Derek Dooley 4-5-4 defense.


LSU and Bama defenses are wicked bro...
Posted by jrevonte
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:26 pm to
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FIFY. All of the teams with really good no-huddle spread offenses have an exceptional offensive mind in charge like Chip Kelly, Gus Malzahn, Chad Morris, Kevin Sumlin, etc... You need a good coach to execute that strategy more than anything.


All of these coaches also either had or actually have a QB who could tote the pill too!
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 7:30 pm
Posted by DBeaux225
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:30 pm to
LSU is speeding up the tempo next season. I wonder how Mett will adjust.
Posted by engie
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:33 pm to
We're going to do alot of I formation/2 tight end sets this year after being in the hurry up spread 2,3,and 4 years ago.

Will be back in the hurry up spread in 2014 most likely...
Posted by jrevonte
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:33 pm to
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You are mistaking a zone read-option offense for a HUNH spread.


Dude, the option read is ran from the spread formation!
Posted by jrevonte
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:34 pm to
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LSU is speeding up the tempo next season. I wonder how Mett will adjust.


He looked pretty good but im kinda worried about this too cause we all know big Mett is not a runner...watched him try to turn the corner a couple of times when his receivers were covered...gosh that hurt to watch.
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Serenadium51
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:36 pm to
Tennessee is switching to the spread no-huddle. Tempo will be similar to Oregon but we won't be running much zone read, if any at all. I don't think there's a plan to recruit a QB suitable for the zone read either, at least not this year (unless we sign Deshaun Watson, which isn't gonna happen).
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:38 pm to
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Dude, the option read is ran from the spread formation!



Not necessarily. You just have to have a QB in shotgun with a RB next to him. You can do that with 2 TEs on the line.
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:38 pm to
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LSU and Bama defenses are wicked bro...

In which case, it doesn't matter what kind if offense you're running.

Let me clear a few things up:

1) A "spread" offense is an offense that is run out of formations intended to "spread" the opposing defense out and away from the offensive line, thus opening up more running lanes. Rather than having players put around the offensive line, you send them out as eligible receivers for the defense to cover. This is why the nickel defense is often used to defend spread offenses - which takes away a linebacker used for run support.

2) The hurry-up, no-huddle offensive philosophy is employed by nearly every team at one point or another. Most use it as their "two-minute" offense. You could theoretically run any sort of offense you want out of it - the Patriots frequently run it in multiple TE sets and see a lot of success out of it. The intent is to gas the defense and keep from giving them time to set up correctly. Does not need a dual-threat quarterback to run.

3) A "read-option" offense is a play-calling philosophy that can be run out of any set that you want. Spread, multiple TE, it doesn't really matter. THIS is what needs a running quarterback to work, but you're gonna want that in nearly all option Os. This is not needed to run either a spread or a hurry-up offense effectively, nor is it an offensive philosophy that a team would necessarily have to devote 100% of their plays to.

All three can be run at the same time, but none are dependent on any of the others.
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 7:42 pm
Posted by jrevonte
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:39 pm to
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Tennessee is switching to the spread no-huddle. Tempo will be similar to Oregon but we won't be running much zone read, if any at all. I don't think there's a plan to recruit a QB suitable for the zone read either, at least not this year (unless we sign Deshaun Watson, which isn't gonna happen).


Interested to see how Tennessee transitions with new coaching staff!!
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:41 pm to
So am I
Posted by Serenadium51
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:42 pm to
Me and you both man. Would post a cheers but I'm on mobile
Posted by Ted2010
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:43 pm to
Bama could be in trouble if a lot of SEC go to it.
Posted by jrevonte
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:46 pm to
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Bama could be in trouble if a lot of SEC go to it.


Ya think? I don't know about that!
Posted by Serenadium51
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:46 pm to
I think you guys will be ok considering how much talent is stacked on top of more talent in bama's depth chart. I don't think Saban has a problem with keeping his horses well conditioned year in and year out either.
Posted by jrevonte
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:50 pm to
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I think you guys will be ok considering how much talent is stacked on top of more talent in bama's depth chart. I don't think Saban has a problem with keeping his horses well conditioned year in and year out either.


And Bama has bye weeks before the games they will have to do real battle in! Tex A&M arse is in trouble this year!!!

Tex A&M beat Bama because Bama was emotionally drained after playing in the LSU Barnburner the week before!!! shite ain't happening this year!!
This post was edited on 3/30/13 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 7:56 pm to
Les Miles thought JJ was a good idea too
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