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With the Rising Costs of Football Tickets and the New SEC-Network
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:04 pm
(Where every game will now be on TV), do you think it will start to hurt the attendance at your school?
You hear more and more people every year opting to tailgate and watch the game on TV either on campus or in the comfort of their own living room.
I hope this does not start to become the trend, but you already see it happening in the NFL.
Thoughts?
You hear more and more people every year opting to tailgate and watch the game on TV either on campus or in the comfort of their own living room.
I hope this does not start to become the trend, but you already see it happening in the NFL.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:05 pm to TabledTiger
I think demand will remain strong at most schools, with the exception of Aggy. I only say that, because in the other thread Aggy was saying that it already had trouble filling the stadium and they are expanding.
I think LSU will continue to have robust demand for tickets while failing to draw large crowds for rent-a-win schools later in the year, just like always.
I think LSU will continue to have robust demand for tickets while failing to draw large crowds for rent-a-win schools later in the year, just like always.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:06 pm to TabledTiger
I came extremely close to not renewing my season tickets, but in the end I went ahead.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:06 pm to TabledTiger
Ticket sales have already been hit. Alabama didn't average a sellout, over the course of the season, for the first time since 1986.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:08 pm to TabledTiger
For a while now I have preferred watching on TV to attending in person.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:11 pm to therick711
You go ahead and make this thread about aggy Richard
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:11 pm to TabledTiger
I always love to be there live because I just love being in the atmosphere, but I know people in my family (my dad in particular) swear by tailgating then going home and watching it in his living room vs. paying for a ticket.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:13 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I think we all will see some sort of fall in ticket sales over the long haul
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:19 pm to TabledTiger
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do you think it will start to hurt the attendance at your school?
No.
Taking a client to a game in your corporate box suite will always be more impressive than taking them to a nice bar with the game on.
The regular folks who fill 80% of the stadium bring in like 20% of the stadium revenue.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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The regular folks who fill 80% of the stadium bring in like 20% of the stadium revenue.
With seat licensing fees, etc. I think it's a lot closer than that.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:00 pm to cardboardboxer
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do you think it will start to hurt the attendance at your school?
No.
Taking a client to a game in your corporate box suite will always be more impressive than taking them to a nice bar with the game on.
The regular folks who fill 80% of the stadium bring in like 20% of the stadium revenue.
uhh, the clients in the boxes and the revenue they bring have nothing to do with this discussion b/c they are not the ones who fill the stadium.
yes, it absolutely will hurt attendance when the team isn't that good or is playing a garbage opponent.
Once the newness of the SEC wears off and JFF leaves A&M there is no way in hell we put 100k in the stadium for an FCS opponent like Lamar without drastically reducing the prices for those games.
There aren't going to be that many people who would want to drive down to BCS and sit in the heat all day for a down A&M vs Southeastern WhoThefrickCares State if they can see it on TV in the comfort of their own home.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:05 pm to Dr RC
Ahhh yes, Southeastern WhothefrickCares State they can be a tough one every now and then
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:12 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Ticket sales have already been hit. Alabama didn't average a sellout, over the course of the season, for the first time since 1986.
That's because we only had 2 decent home games.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:22 pm to TabledTiger
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You hear more and more people every year opting to tailgate and watch the game on TV either on campus or in the comfort of their own living room.
It is going to be an interesting phenomenon. My fear is they use their point systems and concept of scarcity to price out the younger generation for so long, that they won't ever develop a game day routine, start their own tailgates, etc, and begin to create and invest in their own game watching paradise at home. It will be the digital download concept all over again. People see a format of distribution they want, and when they don't receive it, they will figure out a method on their own. I personally think you have to start selling tailgating spots tied to cheap tickets and on a massive scale.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:26 pm to TeLeFaWx
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My fear is they use their point systems and concept of scarcity to price out the younger generation for so long
Seems like with 100k seats the younger generation can count on just scalping tickets every game.
The real problem comes when this younger generation grows older and they can't figure out why to pay the 12 Man and PSLs to get the same seats they can scalp for much cheaper.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:31 pm to TeLeFaWx
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It is going to be an interesting phenomenon. My fear is they use their point systems and concept of scarcity to price out the younger generation for so long, that they won't ever develop a game day routine, start their own tailgates, etc, and begin to create and invest in their own game watching paradise at home.
I agree with this!
Posted on 5/6/13 at 2:22 pm to cardboardboxer
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Seems like with 100k seats the younger generation can count on just scalping tickets every game.
At what cost though? Uncertainty of scalping, and for a big game, it would be way too pricey, or watch it at home? I am 24. I have never scalped a ticket. I am too used to the internet and getting things locked down in advance. I would much rather pay in advance, knowing I get a ticket, and have some sense of control over a multitude of choices, than have to haggle with a scalper who has 10 tickets scattered all over the stadium.
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The real problem comes when this younger generation grows older and they can't figure out why to pay the 12 Man and PSLs to get the same seats they can scalp for much cheaper.
It's all bottom line. Why pay for the cost a brand new HDTV each season for 6 games, when the one from last season still works, and you can watch it 24/7? I mean what is mind boggling to me is that there can be third party tailgating. Why is the 12th Man Foundation letting a private entity make money off their game day experience? You have people that come for the event. Well sell the entire event. Electric outlets, tvs, tents, chairs, catering, anything and everything they want, and then lump the cost of the tickets in there. You could easily get a group of young professionals in Dallas or Houston to throw down for that. You give me prime time tailgating real estate, with tons of amenities and lump cheap seats in there? I would pay a lot for that, and I guarantee I have some friends that would do it with me.
What I would do if I was the 12th Man Foundation:
Create a package specifically for groups of young professionals in Dallas/Austin/Houston/San Antonio. These people are fresh out of college, love the tailgating, have more disposable income than they are used to, and want to make it to as many games as possible, but the leg work is a bit unrealistic living in a new apartment, or having different random things come up. Buy some storage units close to town with the intention of being tailgate storage. You sell/rent them tents, grills, tvs etc or let them store their own, but definitely have the option. Put in electric outlets and reserve tailgating spots. Have catering options, etc. I'm sure there are creative ways to do all of it, but at the end of the day you need to monetize the entire game day experience. It is essential, imo. Worst comes to worst, these people are trying to sell their tickets to offset the cost, but if something like this was available, I would soooo be down. Even if it meant nose bleeds. I get the option to see the game, be apart of the pageantry and magic that is Kyle Field, but I don't have to pay an arm and a leg just for tickets. I still plan on paying an arm and a leg and have donated my fair share to the 12th Man and still paid $440 for a ticket to the Alabama game on stubhub, but instead of third party tailgating services, or the hassle of a bunch of different people in their mid-20s patchworking a tailgate together last minute, something is done nicely.
But I don't know how long I'd be willing to do something like this. It doesn't bother me now since in the oil field I work every other weekend and can only make the Alabama and Auburn games, but once I'm out of the field and in the city, I would like something like I described. I mean I'm sort of spit balling, and somethings I described might not be logistically reasonable or cost effective, but something else needs to be done, imo.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 2:26 pm to TabledTiger
I'm not sure who said it, but someone in the 1960s was talking about how radio and tv were different. In the 30s and 40s, baseball owners thought radio would harm attendance, while it actually increased it. In the 60s, people thought television would have the same effect, but it was the opposite. Anyway this guy said....
Radio gave people the desire to see what they were hearing live; television gave that to them.
Radio gave people the desire to see what they were hearing live; television gave that to them.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 2:34 pm to Bama Bird
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I'm not sure who said it, but someone in the 1960s was talking about how radio and tv were different. In the 30s and 40s, baseball owners thought radio would harm attendance, while it actually increased it. In the 60s, people thought television would have the same effect, but it was the opposite. Anyway this guy said....
Radio gave people the desire to see what they were hearing live; television gave that to them.
Well as it turns out, people are still spitting out kids, and attendance is actually declining this time. So...
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