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Why you don't want an 8 Team Playoff
Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:49 pm
For those of you that favor an 8 team playoff, do you think the conference champions of the P5 conferences should get an automatic invite? If so, here is something to consider, let's say Georgia Tech's season had gone a little different in conference. We lost to Tennessee and Georgia. What if Georgia Tech had ended up with only one conference loss and then won the ACC championship game? You would have had a 3 loss team in the playoffs playing, let's say the only undefeated team which is LSU, Alabama, Auburn or Georgia for a rematch or whoever. With our quirky offense and chop blocking techniques we end up winning by one point on the last play. Would you really want the possibility of a 3 loss team knocking an undefeated team out of the playoffs?
I don't see anyway that the conference champs wouldn't get an automatic invite in order to have buy in on 8 teams. This could be problematic. For example, you don't have to go back too far to 2012 when the Big 10 conference champion Wisconsin lost 5 games in the regular season. I'll admit this was before the Big 10 championship game, but they could have been the winner if a game had been played.
I don't see anyway that the conference champs wouldn't get an automatic invite in order to have buy in on 8 teams. This could be problematic. For example, you don't have to go back too far to 2012 when the Big 10 conference champion Wisconsin lost 5 games in the regular season. I'll admit this was before the Big 10 championship game, but they could have been the winner if a game had been played.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 9:20 pm
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:53 pm to Ramblin Wreck
On the bright side for you is that as a Tech fan, you don’t need to worry about any of this 
Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:55 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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Would you really want the possibility of a 3 loss team knocking an undefeated team out of the playoffs?
I wouldn't mind
Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:56 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Dumb cuck
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:05 pm to Dawgsontop34
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On the bright side for you is that as a Tech fan, you don’t need to worry about any of this
Well we did win our division in 2006, 2009, 2012, and 2014. One of those being the conference championship. Remind me how many times Georgia has won the SEC East since 2006?
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:08 pm to ZOU
Wasn’t wisconsin like 8-4 when they won the big 10 previously? I would put a stipulation that they must be in the top 10 to have the automatic invite.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:13 pm to Dawgsontop34
seems alabama winning is more reason not to expand the number of teams. they may have been the best team, but they didn't deserve a shot at a natty after not even winning their division.
shoulda been ou vs clemson with the winner playing uga. should just go back to the bcs and make for a one game playoff if a good argument can be made for number 3.
shoulda been ou vs clemson with the winner playing uga. should just go back to the bcs and make for a one game playoff if a good argument can be made for number 3.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:18 pm to ZOU
Can't have auto bids to conference champs.
A 7-5 team will get in from time to time. In a perfect world all conference champs are 12-0 but sorry Greg McElroy, it isn't that easy. I'm still on the side of 2009 we should have rematched florida and 2012 should have been a Georgia Bama rematch. Texas wasn't the second best team in 09 and Notre dame sure as hell wasn't in 2012.
Out of conference marquis games would disappear.
Coaches would sit their starters in non conference games. Hell, guys are skipping bowl games. Why the hell would Florida risk getting an injured qb against Florida state if the game had zero impact on florida if they won the SEC. No way fromm, Chubb or Sony play against tech. You would be killing off some great non conference instate rival games because in essence, They don't mean jack shite now.
College Football either needs to have a playoff ala the NCAA basketball tourney or not have one ala the old poll system. They are trying to have both and therein lies the problem.
A 7-5 team will get in from time to time. In a perfect world all conference champs are 12-0 but sorry Greg McElroy, it isn't that easy. I'm still on the side of 2009 we should have rematched florida and 2012 should have been a Georgia Bama rematch. Texas wasn't the second best team in 09 and Notre dame sure as hell wasn't in 2012.
Out of conference marquis games would disappear.
Coaches would sit their starters in non conference games. Hell, guys are skipping bowl games. Why the hell would Florida risk getting an injured qb against Florida state if the game had zero impact on florida if they won the SEC. No way fromm, Chubb or Sony play against tech. You would be killing off some great non conference instate rival games because in essence, They don't mean jack shite now.
College Football either needs to have a playoff ala the NCAA basketball tourney or not have one ala the old poll system. They are trying to have both and therein lies the problem.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:19 pm to SailorGator
[quote]seems alabama winning is more reason not to expand the number of teams. they may have been the best team, but they didn't deserve a shot at a natty after not even winning their division. 
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:20 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I'm not in favor of expansion, but if we do expand, auto bids provide too much benefit to teams in weak divisions. If you lose more than one game in the B1G West, you have no business in the playoff.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:21 pm to TouchdownTony
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Out of conference marquis games would disappear.
Eh, it would defiantly lessen their importance but if you lose the Championship game you are going to want those big OOC wins when you are looking at the final 3 spots in the playoff.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:21 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I find this question interesting when comparing football and basketball. No one would bat an eye if a 5 seed won the tournament. I recognize that football is a different sport, but I think the comparison is still thought provoking.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:05 pm to STLDawg
The basketball tournament is a joke. We don't crown the best team in the country national champions most years. No, we award the title to a team that gets hot at the right time and strings together 6 wins in a row. They might be .500 going into the tourney but it doesn't matter. The regular season doesn't count for shite. No thanks, that's participation run amok.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:08 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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Why you don't want an 8 Team Playoff
I generally dislike change
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:09 pm to Kevua2175
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Wasn’t wisconsin like 8-4 when they won the big 10 previously? I would put a stipulation that they must be in the top 10 to have the automatic invite.
I wouldn't give anyone an automatic invite. The B1G created a division full of patsies with Wisconsin so the PSU/OSU/UM/MSU winner would have a cakewalk in the championship.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:11 pm to SailorGator
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after not even winning their division.
This "not winning their division" criterion isn't getting any less silly over time. People are attached to it for reasons other than trying to create the ideal way of naming the national champion. Worse, it essentially is a specific rule with a corollary that requires that "best team" isn't a factor when deciding the national champion. Is this really what CFB fans want...an acknowledgment that CFB will deliberately prevent a genuine contender for the best of the best from even playing for the title? Name another sport that goes out of its way to do something like that?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:21 pm to randomways
Current system is a beauty pageant. The "national" title itself is mythical imo.
Gotta give the rest of the country a chance to compete.
Gotta give the rest of the country a chance to compete.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:28 pm to molardog1
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Current system is a beauty pageant. The "national" title itself is mythical imo.
Gotta give the rest of the country a chance to compete.
Different discussion. We can talk about expanding the playoff or nudging the criteria, but an honest beauty contest is better than taking the ugly ones over the beautiful ones simply because you don't think beauty is a significant enough criterion to rate a place in the beauty contest. That's just bizarre at the core of it.
There's a reason why CBB did away with that crap 40 years ago.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:39 pm to randomways
Ever wonder why we don't have these conversations with the NFL, NBA, Div 2 football, hockey, etc....
Yea, it's because they use conference champions. If they suck, then they won't win.
Current system will always be the same 10-12 P5 teams....
Yea, it's because they use conference champions. If they suck, then they won't win.
Current system will always be the same 10-12 P5 teams....
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:51 pm to bogeypro
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Ever wonder why we don't have these conversations with the NFL, NBA, Div 2 football, hockey, etc....
Yea, it's because they use conference champions. If they suck, then they won't win.
Current system will always be the same 10-12 P5 teams....
Let's start with the obvious stuff...you know what a wild-card is, right?
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