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Why is Team A considered in by everyone and Team B next 4 out?
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:37 am
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:37 am
Team A
Record : 22-11
KenPom : 77
SOS : 97
Q1 : 4 wins
Q2 : 3 wins
Q3/4 : 2 losses
H2H vs Team B : loss
Team B
Record : 19-13
KenPom : 80
SOS : 33
Q1 : 4 wins
Q2 : 5 wins
Q3/4 : 3 losses
H2H vs Team A : win
Ridiculous
Record : 22-11
KenPom : 77
SOS : 97
Q1 : 4 wins
Q2 : 3 wins
Q3/4 : 2 losses
H2H vs Team B : loss
Team B
Record : 19-13
KenPom : 80
SOS : 33
Q1 : 4 wins
Q2 : 5 wins
Q3/4 : 3 losses
H2H vs Team A : win
Ridiculous
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 8:38 am
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Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
just tell me who the teams are please so I can form an opinion then
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:41 am to WG_Dawg
Pitt
Vandy
Vandy
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
thx. unable to really care enough to form an opinion but as always I appreciate the effort
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 8:42 am
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:42 am to SummerOfGeorge
I assume Team B is Vandy. And when they lost to LSU, they torpedoed any chance they might have. Killed their NET. Typical Stackhouse and typical Vandy.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
I think 20+ wins just looks better than 19. Sounds stupid, but really I think that’s part of it.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Record : 22-11
Record : 19-13
20 wins seems to be some kind of unwritten threshold of getting in with SOS not being a big deal. I'm with you, doesn't make sense.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:43 am to Allthatfades
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I assume Team B is Vandy. And when they lost to LSU, they torpedoed any chance they might have. Killed their NET. Typical Stackhouse and typical Vandy.
Pitt lost to Notre Dame (11-21, 3-17) 9 days after that Vandy loss to LSU.
There always seems to be one team that everyone just decides is in back in late January and never adjust to. Pitt seems to be that team this year.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 8:45 am
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:45 am to WG_Dawg
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thx. unable to really care enough to form an opinion but as always I appreciate the effort
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
Vandy also has the loss to Grambling which kills their NET as well. Take the Grambling and LSU losses away and they are probably on the bubble
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 8:47 am
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
I do think margin and how you look matters… vandy lost by 60 pts in Tuscaloosa, and their best player is out. They also have that inexcusable loss at lsu late in the year.
Granted, I don’t know a thing about Pitt.
Granted, I don’t know a thing about Pitt.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:47 am to lowspark12
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I do think margin and how you look matters… vandy lost by 60 pts in Tuscaloosa
Pitt just lost by by 27 to Duke yesterday
It's more of a Pitt thing than a Vandy thing, I think. I just don't get it.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:49 am to Allthatfades
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Take the Grambling and LSU losses away and they are probably on the bubble
If they win 2 of 3 of Grambling, Southern Miss and LSU they're comfortably in. As others have said, vintage Stackhouse (last year was similar).
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
No reason for team A to be in except that the bubble is extremely weak, I guess.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
It’s frustrating as a fan of another sec team… they blow in the noncon, then become a tough out the rest of the way (when they’re not getting shitpumped by the leagues best team).
I think this is just gonna be VUs MO under stackhouse.
I think this is just gonna be VUs MO under stackhouse.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 8:59 am to lowspark12
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It’s frustrating as a fan of another sec team… they blow in the noncon, then become a tough out the rest of the way (when they’re not getting shitpumped by the leagues best team).
I think this is just gonna be VUs MO under stackhouse.
Somebody had to take the mantle from Frank Martin
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
Team A NET: 67
Team B NET: 82
This is why Pitt is valued over Vandy but I don't understand why Pitt is in to begin with.
Team B NET: 82
This is why Pitt is valued over Vandy but I don't understand why Pitt is in to begin with.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
That’s a good comp honestly.
It also feels like Vandy under stallings… where they’re never gonna have the dudes to consistently win, but they’ll be well coached and a pain in the arse to play, esp in that gym.
It also feels like Vandy under stallings… where they’re never gonna have the dudes to consistently win, but they’ll be well coached and a pain in the arse to play, esp in that gym.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:50 am to lowspark12
Vandy isn’t done. They could beat UK today and that might get them in
Quad 1 win
20 win threshold
Would improve their NET a lot
Quad 1 win
20 win threshold
Would improve their NET a lot
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:11 am to SummerOfGeorge
What are the overall records in each quad?
Isn't it just possible that team A played more quad 3 opponents, while team B played more quad 4 opponents? Also, were those Q3 and Q4 losses for each home or road losses?
Those things matter.
If it's truly Pitt and Vandy, well, Pitt's NET ranking is 15 points higher than Vandy's.
ETA: Pitt's NET has dropped 11 points since the previous ranking. So, I'm not so sure that they are 'safely' in.
Isn't it just possible that team A played more quad 3 opponents, while team B played more quad 4 opponents? Also, were those Q3 and Q4 losses for each home or road losses?
Those things matter.
If it's truly Pitt and Vandy, well, Pitt's NET ranking is 15 points higher than Vandy's.
ETA: Pitt's NET has dropped 11 points since the previous ranking. So, I'm not so sure that they are 'safely' in.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 10:13 am
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