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re: Why is Nick Saban's non BCS title game bowl record so poor?

Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:39 pm to
Sometimes those mistakes are only in hindsight. In the 2011 LSU game he should have punted more but I thought he was trying to do his best to win. Same thing in the AU game last year...how many 100+ yard FG returns actually happen. I mean do you really foresee that?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:40 pm to
Hopefully about 8 years from now.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:40 pm to
You have a brain cell operating today?
Posted by Gus Bus Driver
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:42 pm to
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Yet he always loses at least one big game a year because of his coaching decisions


You mean like attempting a 57 yard FG with an inexperienced kicker instead of going into overtime?
Having 2 time outs and 1:45 left in the game with the ball at the 35 vs LSU yet he took the game to overtime instead of trying to win in regulation and lost.

Not kicking a field goal from 33 yards and getting stuffed on 4th and 1 vs a top 10 red zone defense
Posted by Tiger Live2
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:45 pm to
Hey, I'll be honest. I did go to college, but never LSU. I didn't really start following till Dinardo's first year. I don't have the personal attachments the alums have, so I can feel that even more.
I did go to VCU, and them winning in '11, would of meant more than LSU winning the Final Four in '06. Saying that, if LSU is ever looking for a coach, I want Shaka, and I also want them to play a H&H, so I can go to both games in P&G.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:45 pm to
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Posted by chattabama
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Not kicking a field goal from 33 yards and getting stuffed on 4th and 1 vs a top 10 red zone defense



To be fair, Cade had already missed one from around that distance. If Yeldon would have converted that fourth and one then nobody would question that decision.
Posted by BlackCloud
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:48 pm to
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You have a brain cell operating today?

I'm speechless at how clever and original that retort was.
Posted by Tiger Live2
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:48 pm to
Also remember the 4th down decision against UT in the '01 SECCG. First half, inside our 40 IIRC. It failed at the time, but the defense said it gave them confidence. You have to take gambles. Sometimes they work. Sometimes they don't.
Posted by Gus Bus Driver
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:50 pm to
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To be fair, Cade had already missed one from around that distance. If Yeldon would have converted that fourth and one then nobody would question that decision.
True, but lets be honest...there was 5 minutes left and a field goal would've made it a two score game...You have to go to your kicker there and every bama fan around me was saying the same thing
Posted by LSUFOREVERAMEN
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:52 pm to
100 yard returns are a rarity, but it was probably just as unlikely that Bama's second-string kicker was going to have the leg to kick the ball a full 57 yards.

I'm not debating trying to kick the FG to try and win the game.

However, I do question why they were running the ball twice in a row. I mean McCarron led a pretty decent drive against LSU in 2012 with 1:30. Now, Bama only had :30 left against Auburn, but I think AJ could've gotten the ball a bit closer than 57 yards. At least if you missed, it would've gone out the back of the endzone.
Posted by chattabama
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:52 pm to
Meh. I can see it either way. If Cade would have missed that one on top of having missed the one before Bama fans everywhere would have been screaming "Why didn't you go for it?"
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:52 pm to
One of my favorite games.

"This Canes/Vols showdown should be a doozy." -National Press

" " -LSU
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:54 pm to
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If Yeldon would have converted that fourth and one then nobody would question that decision.


Was a nice timeto do the ol' play action to Fowler. That play was always reliable in situations like that.
Posted by thatdude1985
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:54 pm to
He's a shitty coach.
Posted by Tiger Live2
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:55 pm to
Yea, the national media blew it that year. Week before it was a certainty Florida would be Miami's slaughter.
Eta and in no way would Nebraska make it.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 9:57 pm
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:55 pm to
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However, I do question why they were running the ball twice in a row. I mean McCarron led a pretty decent drive against LSU in 2012 with 1:30. Now, Bama only had :30 left against Auburn, but I think AJ could've gotten the ball a bit closer than 57 yards. At least if you missed, it would've gone out the back of the endzone.


I was wanting the hail mary as well. I wasn't thinking 100 yard return, but I was thinking about the blocked field goal returned for a touchdown vs UGA in the SECCG.

Heck, on third and one/fourth and one I was wanting a pass to Fowler or Howard. AU was selling out for the run and a completed pass could have gone the distance.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:56 pm to
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Not kicking a field goal from 33 yards and getting stuffed on 4th and 1 vs a top 10 red zone defense



I agree. We should have gone for the field goal. But you think a power run offense like that of Alabama could convert a 4th & 1. And didn't Foster miss a chip shot field goal on the previous drive? That might have factored into Saban's decision to go for it on fourth down.

Cade Foster was off and, while it sucks what he went through in the game's aftermath, I'm glad he is no longer in a Crimson Tide jersey.

But here's the sad irony: had it been Foster, and not Griffith, who kicked that final field goal, Foster would have more than likely made the tackle before the Auburn player got to the end zone. As shitty of a kicker as he was, he was probably the best tackler we had on special teams.
Posted by Gus Bus Driver
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:58 pm to
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If Cade would have missed that one on top of having missed the one before Bama fans everywhere would have been screaming "Why didn't you go for it?"
Damned if ya do, damned if you dont.

Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:59 pm to
If you were gonna try out Adam Griffith, wouldn't that have been the time? This game is pissing me off all over again.
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