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Why does everyone keep debating an 8 vs 9 game schedule...wouldn't 10 be better?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:33 am
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:33 am
8 conference games just aren't enough. 9 means half the league gets 5 home games and the other half gets 4 (except Florida and Georgia). Doesn't 10 make more sense?
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:46 am to MyMossHangs
I don’t really see the point of OOC games in the SEC at this point. Any more expansion would warrant argument for an entirely new structure / re-divisioning collegiate athletics altogether.
Every year, we will still be arguing about who won the conference while SEC teams are rematching in the post season.
Not terribly far off from the CWS this year. Only football gives you the least data points, so it will be even more ridiculous.
Every year, we will still be arguing about who won the conference while SEC teams are rematching in the post season.
Not terribly far off from the CWS this year. Only football gives you the least data points, so it will be even more ridiculous.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:48 am to MyMossHangs
You do realize how brutal of a SEC schedule 10 games is? So brutal you could not make the top 8 playoff when it starts, even with a really good team.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:52 am to des4271
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You do realize how brutal of a SEC schedule 10 games is? So brutal you could not make the top 8 playoff when it starts, even with a really good team.
An SEC champ would not be left out of a 12 team playoff.
If there will be no divisions going forward after 2024 and top 2 teams advance to a conference title game, you need more conference games to level out the strength of schedule for everyone.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:53 am to MyMossHangs
This is what I have been saying. Keeps LSU playing Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St. and 1 other. Also played a 10 game SEC Schedule in 2020 with less players due to COVID. Would play every team and venue within a 4 year period. Expand season to add in another BYE week or get rid of SECCG.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:59 am to John Casey
The SEC SOS is already at the top of the list in the country. The SEC has had 2 teams in the top 4 several times lately and that supports the strength of the SEC. You start playing that many teams ( 10 ), you run the risk of playing yourself out of the playoffs.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:02 am to MyMossHangs
At this point I think 10 SEC games would be the most beneficial. There is almost no reason for out of conference games at this point. I think having 10 SEC games and 2 non conference games would be the way to go especially with the expansion for the playoff being 12 teams.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:02 am to DeathByTossDive225
quote:These games have been instrumental in the SEC taking over college football since the BCS days. Winning them has almost always hurt another conference’s chances when it came to rankings and favorites.
I don’t really see the point of OOC games in the SEC at this point.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:14 am to BayouFann
So 10 league games regular season & then another, making it 11 leagues games, with the championship game in Atlanta. No league HC would ever agree to that schedule.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:16 am to des4271
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The SEC SOS is already at the top of the list in the country.
I'm speaking strictly from SEC conference standpoint and not in comparison to other conferences.
In 2024, SEC has no divisions and top 2 teams will play for SEC title.
If this is format going forward, 8 conference games is too few in a league of 16 schools, IMO.
If a round robin type conference schedule is to determine top 2 conference teams, there needs to be more schools playing each other for a more complete body of work, when it comes to determining the top 2.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:21 am to DeathByTossDive225
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I don’t really see the point of OOC games in the SEC at this point
well you have no traditional rivalries. SC and UF absolutely want to keep theirs.
Also in general its just boring to only play SEC schools, playing a fun OOC game means you get to play and get excited about matching up against some team you rarely see
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:28 am to MyMossHangs
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Why does everyone keep debating an 8 vs 9 game schedule...wouldn't 10 be better?
It's just a platform to get you to the Playoff. 8 games will be fine and when we up the ante to 12 teams, maybe by then the SEC can figure out how to add 9 in a fair and equitable way.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:33 am to DeathByTossDive225
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don’t really see the point of OOC games in the SEC at this point
Aren't you playing USC in Las Vegas and UCLA at home in 2024?
That doesn't seem better than playing Missouri (your 2023 East opponent) quicker?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:34 am to MyMossHangs
12 game SEC schedule. OOC games will be the new spring games and you can play one after spring practice and another leading up to the start of the season in early fall; that's up to individual teams though and they don't have to play any OOC games. Also, we will be leaving the College Football Playoff and starting our own four team playoff, which will increase to an eight team playoff after Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson, and Florida State join.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:34 am to GamecockUltimate
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well you have no traditional rivalries. SC and UF absolutely want to keep theirs.
Also in general its just boring to only play SEC schools, playing a fun OOC game means you get to play and get excited about matching up against some team you rarely see
This was and is technically the case today.
Once the divisions have been sunset, you’re essentially trading some of those secondary rivalry games and historical divisional matchups for OOCs. Because extending the CFB regular season AND expanding the playoff is not really an option.
Also, the only reason you ever get any fun OOCs is that winning the conference always mattered more. Who is going to risk an L or schedule an opener like LSU/FSU when the new format is live?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:32 pm to MyMossHangs
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8 conference games just aren't enough. 9 means half the league gets 5 home games and the other half gets 4 (except Florida and Georgia). Doesn't 10 make more sense?
It will be much harder for the SEC teams that have a P5 OOC rival they play every year. Florida/Florida St., Georgia/Georgia Tech, USCe/Clemson, Kentucky/Louisville. I'm guessing that after the addition of the two new teams, Oklahoma/Oklahoma State will be added to the permanent P5 OOC rival list.
That means they only play one different OOC opponent per year. The other 11 games will be their 10 SEC opponents and their P5 Rival.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:42 pm to madmaxvol
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That means they only play one different OOC opponent per year. The other 11 games will be their 10 SEC opponents and their P5 Riva
Yup. But of all the feasible options, this is my favorite. May as well accept this is the beginning of the end for P5 & make as much sense of it as possible in the meantime.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:56 pm to MyMossHangs
10 games is hard.
That is an additional 16 games (or 8 losses) for the conference.
Additionally, you’d have no OOC POWER5 games and that would affect:
Fla
Uga
USCE
Ky
In their ACC rivalries.
then the big 12 or pac16 would have ten game schedules and USC AND OREGON would make it out with only one or two losses on a cupcake schedule.
They would then claim to want as many playoff spots as the sec as they are “doing the same thing” but in a weaker conference.
Sec should stay at 8 until the money espn pays increases and we get 4 or 5 teams in the 12 playoff spots.
Sec is in a position of strength.
That is an additional 16 games (or 8 losses) for the conference.
Additionally, you’d have no OOC POWER5 games and that would affect:
Fla
Uga
USCE
Ky
In their ACC rivalries.
then the big 12 or pac16 would have ten game schedules and USC AND OREGON would make it out with only one or two losses on a cupcake schedule.
They would then claim to want as many playoff spots as the sec as they are “doing the same thing” but in a weaker conference.
Sec should stay at 8 until the money espn pays increases and we get 4 or 5 teams in the 12 playoff spots.
Sec is in a position of strength.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:16 pm to MyMossHangs
Posted about this the other day. If we're going mega conferences, go to 20 teams immediately. I showed that you can have everyone's in-state rival in the conference except for UK - kick Mizzou out. I say kick out Vandy as well. Replace with Louisville.
14 week season. 12 games. 10 SEC games. 2 bye weeks. Preserves all the rivalries. I even reconnect UF and AU for their rivalry that got ruined by divisional play and expansion and so those two get 11 SEC games.
I preserved all of the rivalries with this schedule and kept the divisions.
If they screw this up and lose rivalries, they will lose the fans.
14 week season. 12 games. 10 SEC games. 2 bye weeks. Preserves all the rivalries. I even reconnect UF and AU for their rivalry that got ruined by divisional play and expansion and so those two get 11 SEC games.
I preserved all of the rivalries with this schedule and kept the divisions.
If they screw this up and lose rivalries, they will lose the fans.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:20 pm to MyMossHangs
It would. Because with 9 the complaints will quickly sift to who’s losing the extra home game and having to play 5 road conference games.
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