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re: Why did UF and LSU staffs prepare better for Manziel than Saban?
Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:05 pm to Smoke Ring
Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:05 pm to Smoke Ring
You moron Aggies are insane.
Manziel mostly improvised and caught Bama's defenders out of place. I'm sure the team was well prepared but simply didn't execute in one quarter of play.
And Saban isn't spending all summer on one player. There isn't much to cover. Manziel improvises. That's all there is. Saban can only work on keeping the players in their spots playing a disciplined scheme. That's it.
A&M is going to have a rude awakening this year. Even Sumlin doesn't know what Manziel is going to do most of the time. It is gonna backfire on pizza face this year.
Manziel mostly improvised and caught Bama's defenders out of place. I'm sure the team was well prepared but simply didn't execute in one quarter of play.
And Saban isn't spending all summer on one player. There isn't much to cover. Manziel improvises. That's all there is. Saban can only work on keeping the players in their spots playing a disciplined scheme. That's it.
A&M is going to have a rude awakening this year. Even Sumlin doesn't know what Manziel is going to do most of the time. It is gonna backfire on pizza face this year.
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:14 pm to bgator85
I never said UF didn't improve or that A&M would win otherwise. You're reading what you want to see and not what I wrote
Posted on 5/19/13 at 2:17 pm to CapstoneGrad06
I didn't make that "excuse". But let's pretend I had. It's more valid than the LSU game excuse for Bama because A&M was playing in its 10th week in a row without a bye week and it was also our 5th road game in 6 weeks.
Not to mention the number of plays our defense had to defend with our offense being off the field so fast. Then add in that we only played 14 guys on D. Most guys never took a snap off.
I'd say our guys were every bit as banged up as your guys.
Hell, Damontre Moore and Mike Evans barely practiced all year because of nagging injuries
Not to mention the number of plays our defense had to defend with our offense being off the field so fast. Then add in that we only played 14 guys on D. Most guys never took a snap off.
I'd say our guys were every bit as banged up as your guys.
Hell, Damontre Moore and Mike Evans barely practiced all year because of nagging injuries
Posted on 5/19/13 at 3:05 pm to BIG DADDY 73
Read this again.
UF and LSU got ATM early, they got better and more confident as the year went.
Sumlin knew to win that game he had to get out of the gate fast and was able to because JFF happened to be on fire.
We were not able to execute the defensive game plan in the first quarter because they were executing well offensively. We adjusted and did better.
We did just come off LSU, but ATM was having a pretty tough stretch too.
I would say UF and LSU may have had slightly better defense than BAMA, but more than that their defenses were better built to defend the spread where BAMA's was better built for Pro style offenses.
Our defense played pretty good from the 2nd quarter on, but the offense didn't execute to give the defense some rest, and the coaches time to adjust between possessions in the first quarter.
And finally the passing instead of running from the 6 yard line, our new OC is a PAC 12 guy and is used to passing and forgot he had a badass OL and with that PAC12 mentality threw the ball instead of just pounding it in for the go ahead score. Insert Jesse at FB and pound the rock and if that don't work hit them with the Cody 5 play like the 2009 Iron Bowl. Game Over
But like the old song says Hind sight's 20/20.
To go with that hats off to ATM coming into BDS and playing lights out. Maybe we return the favor.
UF and LSU got ATM early, they got better and more confident as the year went.
Sumlin knew to win that game he had to get out of the gate fast and was able to because JFF happened to be on fire.
We were not able to execute the defensive game plan in the first quarter because they were executing well offensively. We adjusted and did better.
We did just come off LSU, but ATM was having a pretty tough stretch too.
I would say UF and LSU may have had slightly better defense than BAMA, but more than that their defenses were better built to defend the spread where BAMA's was better built for Pro style offenses.
Our defense played pretty good from the 2nd quarter on, but the offense didn't execute to give the defense some rest, and the coaches time to adjust between possessions in the first quarter.
And finally the passing instead of running from the 6 yard line, our new OC is a PAC 12 guy and is used to passing and forgot he had a badass OL and with that PAC12 mentality threw the ball instead of just pounding it in for the go ahead score. Insert Jesse at FB and pound the rock and if that don't work hit them with the Cody 5 play like the 2009 Iron Bowl. Game Over
But like the old song says Hind sight's 20/20.
To go with that hats off to ATM coming into BDS and playing lights out. Maybe we return the favor.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 3:17 pm to Smoke Ring
It wasn't all a matter of preparition it was the matchups LSU had faster line backers and defensive line AND DITTO FOR ATM when they played bama!
Posted on 5/19/13 at 4:52 pm to timm6971463
timm6971463 you are correct. And your team must be tougher than Bama cause you won the next week.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:03 pm to Maroon Flash
Everyone seems to be forgetting that A&M dominated UF in the 1st half in that game...
In the 2nd half, UF shut down A&M completely.
Heck, all the A&M fans are forgetting that noone had ever seen Manziel play before the UF game.
UF had NO tape on the guy.
In the 2nd half, UF shut down A&M completely.
Heck, all the A&M fans are forgetting that noone had ever seen Manziel play before the UF game.
UF had NO tape on the guy.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:20 pm to boXerrumble
Neither did our coaches. They didn't know what they had at QB.
Every time somebody gets close at practice the play is blown dead before Johnny does Johnny.
Kliff used JF better as the year progressed and as JF progressed with his vision and accuracy.
Every time somebody gets close at practice the play is blown dead before Johnny does Johnny.
Kliff used JF better as the year progressed and as JF progressed with his vision and accuracy.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:23 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
A&M didn't beat Bama..... Bama beat themselves
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:29 pm to Restomod
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A&M didn't beat Bama..... Bama beat themselves
Man... this board is gonna be crazy when the 2nd week of the season arrives.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:33 pm to Restomod
That's a tough argument. I like to give credit to the victors.
LSU forced A&M into turning the ball over and beat us.
A&M forced those Bama turnovers and beat y'all.
Yes, y'all were the better team. Just not that day.
Yes A&M was better than LSU last year. But not that day.
LSU forced A&M into turning the ball over and beat us.
A&M forced those Bama turnovers and beat y'all.
Yes, y'all were the better team. Just not that day.
Yes A&M was better than LSU last year. But not that day.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:34 pm to Big Kat
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Yes A&M was better than LSU last year. But not that day.
Oh jesus...
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:37 pm to Big Kat
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Yes A&M was better than LSU last year.
Nope.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:40 pm to BhamBengal
11-2 Top 5 finish :dwi:
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:51 pm to Alahunter
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4. Manziel's adlib, and ability to extend the play was the difference. Bama lost containment and that made the difference.
JM vs Fla 173 passing 60 rushing 1 TD's
JM vs Lsu 276 passing 27 rushing 3 turnovers
JM vs Bama 253 passing 92 rushing 2 TD's
One of those TD's was to Swope on an extended play. I also give more credit to Swope, personally, imo. He did a terrific job at adjusting his routes and got open for JM a lot.
One other factor, was Bama's inability to move the ball in the first quarter. Why they went to passing so much, and staying with it, when it wasn't working is beyond explanation.
Actually A&M was shutting down the Bama run game. Spencer Nealy was blowing up Barrett Jones on virtually every play and was living in the backfield. You can't run the ball when the DL gets that kind of push.
Saban switching to the pass wasn't just because he paniced, you guys literally weren't moving the ball when you ran. You had a season low in rushing against us (well beyond Western Kentucky, where the game was over after the first quarter and Saban shut it down).
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:53 pm to MC Ride
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Saban couldn't stop Cam Newton. Why should you expect him to stop MANziel?
A QB that is fast and can throw the ball decently is Saban's Kryptonite.
I'm starting to believe that one of Chip Kelly's Oregon teams could have beat Alabama, had they played in the National Championship.
It's everyone's Kryptonite. A guy who can reliably throw the ball and can also run really well is basically impossible to stop because you can't stop both, you have to commit to one or the other.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 5:56 pm to Vander
Correct, Vander. And Bama did attempt to run on 2nd down but might've gained a yard setting up third and long for the TD when you had to throw (or scramble like AJ did)
The only bad call of the 4 IMO was not running on 4th and goal from the 2
The only bad call of the 4 IMO was not running on 4th and goal from the 2
Posted on 5/19/13 at 6:53 pm to Big Kat
BAMA ran the ball well after the fist quarter. Our low rushing yardage was more due to us needing to get caught back up and passed the ball more.
Nealy had a good day against Jones but to say that he was in the back field all day is exaggerating.
That one run was to the outside which was also a bad call. We should have pounded the rock between the tackles with JW at FB. If that didn't work go play action out of the same formation and hit Yeldon out of the back field.
And since we are talking hypothetical shite, how do you know we wouldn't have beat USC and/or UF had we played them? Since yall keep saying we wouldn't have won the west if we had to play them.
Nealy had a good day against Jones but to say that he was in the back field all day is exaggerating.
That one run was to the outside which was also a bad call. We should have pounded the rock between the tackles with JW at FB. If that didn't work go play action out of the same formation and hit Yeldon out of the back field.
And since we are talking hypothetical shite, how do you know we wouldn't have beat USC and/or UF had we played them? Since yall keep saying we wouldn't have won the west if we had to play them.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:28 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Has any bama fan posted that aj was hurt, yet?
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:42 pm to ColtonH
BTW
LSU finished the regular season on a three game winning streak after the bama game.
LSU finished the regular season on a three game winning streak after the bama game.
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