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re: Why did UF and LSU staffs prepare better for Manziel than Saban?

Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:26 am to
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:26 am to


I would rather be lucky than good any day.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 7:27 am
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:37 am to
Why didn't Sumlin better prepare for UF and LSU?
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:44 am to
Some of number 3, but the games aren't played in a vacuum. Alabama had just played a very physical and highly emotional game against LSU and it showed in the first half.
Posted by Scatmanjohn12
Grand Prairie, Louisiana
Member since Feb 2013
1090 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:45 am to
quote:

A&M barely beat a depleted Bama team that had just went through an absolute war in the most hostile environment in college football during a mid day game. Bama is going to sodomize A&M in '13.

cosign
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:46 am to
Also Cock Ring, you're not taking into account the very physical, emotional, game that Bama played against LSU the week before. A&M will not be playing a Bama team that just got pounded on by LSU the week before this time. And 20 points won't be spotted right out of the gate either....But troll on Cock Ring, troll on honky.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
12895 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:51 am to
Easy answer, both LSU and UF didn't have the snot beaten out of them on the field the wknd before they played them. Yes , A&M you can thank us for that
Posted by Scatmanjohn12
Grand Prairie, Louisiana
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:54 am to
Some of the play-calling was kind suspect though. Seems like bama was throwing the ball a lot more than normal in that game.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:05 am to
They were down 20

And our pass D was our weak spot. But no excuse for 4 passes from inside the 5 yard line. I think Saban just over thought things for once. Sumlin was in his head. I mean, when else has Bama won a coin toss and elected to receive the ball?
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:08 am to
quote:

I mean, when else has Bama won a coin toss and elected to receive the ball?


About half the time over the last 3 years
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:17 am to
No. No, he hasn't
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:22 am to
I think I've watched more Bama games than you. In '08 and '09 we always deferred (with exception of '09 SECCG). The last 3 years, it's been pretty much a toss-up because the offense hasn't been the liability it was in the early years
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:31 am to
4. Manziel's adlib, and ability to extend the play was the difference. Bama lost containment and that made the difference.

JM vs Fla 173 passing 60 rushing 1 TD's

JM vs Lsu 276 passing 27 rushing 3 turnovers

JM vs Bama 253 passing 92 rushing 2 TD's

One of those TD's was to Swope on an extended play. I also give more credit to Swope, personally, imo. He did a terrific job at adjusting his routes and got open for JM a lot.

One other factor, was Bama's inability to move the ball in the first quarter. Why they went to passing so much, and staying with it, when it wasn't working is beyond explanation.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 8:33 am
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128343 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:34 am to
His ego got in the way
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:35 am to
No doubt. I watch plenty of Bama games although I do not pay attention to your coin tosses. I was going by what the announcers in that game said.

After researching just now it seems Bama does receive more often than I thought but its normally if there's wind involved.

quote:

"I'd rather start the game with my best guys against their worst guys, however that turns out to be. That's the best chance to get off to a good start."

-Nick Saban

Looks like Nick was trying to keep our offense off the field as he thought the best matchup to exploit was Bama O vs A&M D.


But don't blame me for being lied to by Verne Lundquist. I shouldn't have to fact check announcers
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:37 am to
Alahunter, I remember y'all's passing game working better than your running game. Didn't AJ have 3 50 yard pass completions in the 4th Q?
Posted by TwelfthMan
Member since Oct 2012
694 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:41 am to
Implementing the "cramp" strategy to slow the offense down in the second half is not equal to preparation.
Boom is a joke, as he showed in his bowl game, and doesn't belong in this thread.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:42 am to


Verne probably remembered that the '08 and '09 Bama teams always deferred. He's not always so good on staying up to date on things.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:49 am to
It picked up eventually. The 1st qtr was not good though. Lacy was ripping off almost 6 yards a carry for the game.

1st qtr for Bama

EL rush 0 yds
AJ rush 2 yds
AJ incomplete
punt

EL rush 18 yds
EL rush 5 yds
AJ incomplete
AJ Int

Yeldon rush -4 yds
AJ pass complete 5 yds
AJ incomplete
punt

Yeldon rush 4 yds
Yeldon rush 4 yds

end qtr score 20-0

AJ 1 for 5 for 5 yds and INT

TOP for Bama in 1st qtr, about 5 minutes.

JM had 5 scrambles in the 1st qtr for 74 yds of his 92 yds rushing in the game. 2 of the rushes were on 3rd and 6 and 3rd and 7 yds, extending one drive that resulted in a TD.
Posted by Scatmanjohn12
Grand Prairie, Louisiana
Member since Feb 2013
1090 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 9:04 am to
This is what I was getting at.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47197 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 9:40 am to
This is the same Will Muschamp who was the only coach to stop Tebow twice, let's not forget that.
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