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re: Why are Texas recruits so coveted?

Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by Chizzin ain't Easy
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:09 pm to
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Who was better than Mallett or Wilson the last 5 years?
Cam Newton, Johnny Manziel, and Tim Tebow - for starters.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:09 pm to
Am I missing the part where Arky QBs have done something worthwhile in the SEC in the past 5 years?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
66658 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:10 pm to
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LoLwut?
He was a fullback taking snaps. I don't even consider his playtime in college as a QB. McFadden made better passes than him out of the wildcat.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:10 pm to
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Hypothetically, if Arkansas could cherry pick any in-state kids they wanted and never lost Arkansas kids to their neighbors, you could probably field a pretty competitive football team made up of nothing but Arkansas kids. But the state doesn't have enough talent to feed more than 1 perennial top 15-25ish team. If you lose even a few of your in state targets to Bama/A&M/LSU, etc, you have no choice but to hope for the best in other states to fill the void.

Texas has enough talent to field 2 elite level college football teams and 3-4 top 15-25ish teams. Usually that means 2 of A&M/OU/UTex are top 10 teams with almost all Texas talent, while the one left out is a notch down. Then you've got Baylor/TCU/TT/OSU also feeding almost exclusively off of Texas talent, and while not considered mainstays in the top 10, they've all had 10+ win seasons in the last 5-6 years.


That's not the point.

The point is, we get a lot of recruits from both Arkansas and Texas, and the majority of them are in the 3-4* range. So you wouldn't expect that there would be that many more Arkansas recruits than Texas recruits turning into good players.

Either Texas recruits are being overrated or Arkansas recruits are underrated, or maybe a little of both.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:10 pm to
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Who was better than Mallett or Wilson the last 5 years?


Does winning games or championship count in the analysis?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43772 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:11 pm to
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How many NFL players are from tx? How many tx kids are college all-Americans?



How many NCs have the Texas schools won since 1960, combined?

Over-rated.

Since the 80s the kids keep getting softer and softer, might win you a big12 championship but not much else.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:14 pm to
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Cam Newton, Johnny Manziel, Tim Tebow, and AJ McCarron- for starters.


Fixed it for you



Posted by Chizzin ain't Easy
Member since Oct 2012
513 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:15 pm to
One of those is not like the others.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:17 pm to
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One of those is not like the others.


Don't look down on Manziel just because he won't win any NC's.
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:18 pm to
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He was a fullback taking snaps. I don't even consider his playtime in college as a QB. McFadden made better passes than him out of the wildcat.


Nice Bait...

Que the florida fans
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27821 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:19 pm to
As Colt McCoy and Vince Young were putting on the burnt orange in the bowels of the Stadium that was hosting the BCS NCG they undoubtably wished to themselves that they had chosen Arknasas
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
66658 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:19 pm to
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Am I missing the part where Arky QBs have done something worthwhile in the SEC in the past 5 years?
In 2011 Tyler Wilson passed for 500 more yards than any other QB in the SEC, while also having the highest QB rating of 148.3. He also had the 2nd highest completion percentage behind McCarron (who had over 100 less passing attempts and 1004 less yards). He was also 2nd in the league in TD's thrown with 24. It was also his first year as a starter.

In 2010, Ryan Mallett passed for 700 yards more than the 2nd place QB in the SEC. 9.4 yards per completion and a 64% completion percentage with a QB rating of 163.7. Lead the league in TD's thrown as well with 32.

In 2009, Ryan Mallett passed for nearly 1000 yards more than the 2nd place QB in the SEC (Tebow). Lead the league in TD's thrown with 30. 152.2 QB rating.

2012 was the first time in 4 years an Arkansas QB didn't lead the league in yards and he still threw for 3300 with a QB rating of 143.8. 62% completion percentage.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:21 pm to
You're absolutely right. The last one has 1-3 more championships than all three of them.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
66658 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:22 pm to
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The last one has 1-3 more championships than all three of them.
And all he has to do is hand the ball off. Must be nice.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
66658 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:23 pm to
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huge talent coming out of that state
What's the shorthorn's excuse? Absolutely no reason for that school to be struggling to make bowl games.
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 6:24 pm
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:24 pm to
Darren McFadden and Felix Jones?

come on now...

and I forgot the almighty Kniles Davis
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43772 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:25 pm to
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What's the shorthorn's excuse?


They get first pick from the Texas talent.
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:25 pm to
You Arkansas fans were spewing that kniles davis bullshite all over the board last year
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 6:27 pm
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 5/20/13 at 6:25 pm to
double post
This post was edited on 5/20/13 at 6:27 pm
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