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re: Who will Auburn replace Gus with?

Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:03 pm to
Maybe. But yall haven't invested in Gus while hes been there, so why would they buyout 24 mil plus, to sign a guy to not have money to invest in? I get your optimism for lightning in a bottle, but it's not that easy.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:07 pm to
And we just outed the president who was behind that extension and severally crippled the influence of the one major booster who is the one who pushed for it.

COGS ARE MOVING
Posted by Prometheus
Member since May 2012
6194 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Even with a poor season, I dont see them firing him


Gus is a fired arse, if he gets 7 or less wins this year. AU isn't scared to pull the trigger and money doesn't matter. IMO

I also think Clark would be one of the main targets. I would like the hire.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79015 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:16 pm to
I like Bill Clark and if he ultimately got the call I'd be intrigued.

But calling him a massive upgrade over Gus is very questionable. I'm no Gus fan at the moment, but Gus came from a better program and had far higher tier experience before becoming a HC. Campbell has a far better resume too, and while Iowa State is a historically bad program, he's got a claim similar to Clark's - bringing it up to a competitive level out of the wilderness. Of course, Campbell has something Clark doesn't have - multiple wins over big programs and 3 top 10 upsets in the last 2 years.

Clark is still a little short of resume items for top programs and I don't think any school outside of Alabama (or maybe Mississippi) would consider him until he adds a few more selling points. Another good year at UAB will help. Beat Tennessee and I bet his stock really begins to soar.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:19 pm to
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If a school is going to pay $24M (not counting any buyouts to assistant coaches) to rid themselves of a coach, it isn't for a marginal upgrade like Bill Clark.

$6.8MM in salary for 2019 + $26.6MM buyout + buying out the rest of the current staff + paying a buyout to hire a future staff.... all to replace the current HC with Bill Clark?

They better be swinging for Bob Stoops again if they plan to pony up +/-$30MM to shite can the current staff. It's not like Auburn isn't way behind in facility upgrades & renovations which could be used to draw a top shelf HC.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:21 pm to
All Bill Clark does is create winners at every level.

Plus, coaches with a first name starting with B are clearly hot at Auburn right now and Bill Clark would complete the Holy B Trinity of Bruce, Butch, and Bill

You really can't argue those points

#MABA
Make Auburn B Again
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:21 pm to
More likely Neal Brown. He would have been the main target if Gus left for Arkansas in 2017.
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:23 pm to
Les seems happy. I'm not sure he would leave Kansas to go to Auburn.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:24 pm to
Bob Stoops
Bobby Petrino
Jeff Brohm
Art Briles
Brent Venables


Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:30 pm to
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More likely Neal Brown. He would have been the main target if Gus left for Arkansas in 2017.


Good Lord, Malzhan & Sexton played your Admin in '17.

Gus knows Auburn is the best coaching job he will ever have. He wasn't about to crap away his career for a total rebuild job at Arkansas so he bent AU over a barrel and swore all he needed to "get this thing turned around" was job security.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:30 pm to
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Bill Clark, UAB


This makes the most sense to me of any possible hire. The guy makes $900,000/year at UAB.... so he'd probably take the Auburn job for between $2.5 - $3.0 million.

Auburn is currently paying Gus $6.7 million per year, so the savings would go towards Malzahn's buyout.

More importantly, he's obviously a good coach to have turned UAB around so fast. He's very well connected in the state of Alabama so I think he could recruit fairly well.

Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:44 pm to
Bob Stoops is also acceptable, but more than likely Auburn hires somebody else and Stoops ends up at his alma mater Iowa if Ferentz ends up gone in the next couple of years. He was about 24 hours away from accepting their offer in 99 before Oklahoma called
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:47 pm to
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Good Lord, Malzhan & Sexton played your Admin in '17. Gus knows Auburn is the best coaching job he will ever have. He wasn't about to crap away his career for a total rebuild job at Arkansas so he bent AU over a barrel and swore all he needed to "get this thing turned around" was job security.


You are underestimating Coaches egos. Gus thought he could be successful anywhere he coaches. Nobody played Auburn, it was just a reflection of the business. You have a coach who has played for a NC, won the SECW twice, the SECC and beat two #1 teams in the last month. AU did exactly what they needed to do and sent a message for the first time that they were willing to pay top dollars to keep a coach. Plus it was mid-December and a lot of other schools had a head start on the search. Do you every remember AU losing a FB Coach to another school ? This would have caused AU to step into unknown territory and would have lead them to pick a jelly of the month club member.
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:48 pm to
Stoops got tired of the grind of college football. He has a cushy job in the XFL now. I don't see him jumping at an opportunity to be in the SEC west.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:49 pm to
I'd love to see Hootie Nutt back on the sidelines somewhere, but I don't hate Auburn bad enough to wish that fool on them.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Bob Stoops Bobby Petrino Jeff Brohm Art Briles Brent Venables


Briles would have shocked the SEC if he was hired. No guts by any AD in the SEC.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:55 pm to
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He has a cushy job in the XFL now. I don't see him jumping at an opportunity to be in the SEC west.


Well it's not like the XFL is going to last long.

And that's exactly while he'll end up at Iowa instead of Auburn. Unless they decide to poach lil bro from Kentucky instead.
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:57 pm to
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Well it's not like the XFL is going to last long.


That's probably what he wants. He gets an easy coaching job with no recruiting for a limited time while still being an assistant to the OU Athletic Director. Guy is the epitome of a retiree.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 5:02 pm to
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You are underestimating Coaches egos. Gus thought he could be successful anywhere he coaches. Nobody played Auburn, it was just a reflection of the business. You have a coach who has played for a NC, won the SECW twice, the SECC and beat two #1 teams in the last month. AU did exactly what they needed to do and sent a message for the first time that they were willing to pay top dollars to keep a coach. Plus it was mid-December and a lot of other schools had a head start on the search. Do you every remember AU losing a FB Coach to another school ? This would have caused AU to step into unknown territory and would have lead them to pick a jelly of the month club member.

I agree with you somewhat, because the coaching carousel had pretty much ran it's course by the time November hit. But Gus/Sexton played the part to a tee and came out like bandits.

History doesn't tell me Auburn won't have to resort to a jelly of the month coach if they fire CGM. And I think a Bill Clark/Neal Brown type hire would be putting another HC in Gus' spot who would still have to learn how to operate a major SEC Big6 program. Does Auburn want another HC in training fro their future going up against Fisher/Saban/Orgeron/Smart, etc?
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