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Who was the better coach in the sec: Derek Dooley or John L. Smith

Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15994 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:50 pm
Tale of the tape
Dooley : 6-7, 5-7, 5-7. Bright orange pants, wasted 2 NFL drafted recievers and an NFL drafted qb.

John L. Smith: 4-8. Wasted NFL drafted qb, NFL drafted reviever, and wanted everyone to smile.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25168 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:57 pm to
Ebola squeezes out a win against which was worst of the three.

Thankfully Dooley and Smith will never darken our conference again. I mean unless someone hires Dooley to be their OC!
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71097 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:32 pm to
C. Butch Jones
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:35 pm to
Unpopular opinion: If Dooley hadn't tried to change his defense to a 3-4 when he was on the hot seat and his roster was completely unprepared for it, he would have gotten at least 1 more season and would be seen as a middling disappointment (and still goofy). His roster management was as bad as Muschamp's but he was not a total disaster as a coach.

JLS gave about a fart's worth of effort as a HC, like he wasn't even trying and didn't care at all.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18043 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:49 pm to
John L just wanted the checks to help out during his fiscal distress from bad land deals.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Unpopular opinion: If Dooley hadn't tried to change his defense to a 3-4 when he was on the hot seat and his roster was completely unprepared for it, he would have gotten at least 1 more season


That actually used to be a fairly popular opinion but in retrospect, I'm watching Pruitt transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and it's not been anything like the Dooley transition that made the number 3 and 4 spoken together curse words. We're desperately in search of CBs right now but the DLs and LBs are already farther along than what was going on when Dooley tried to transition.

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His roster management was as bad as Muschamp's but he was not a total disaster as a coach.


You're underestimating the talent he wasted on offense. We had an all-world OL and ~5-6 of them are current starters or contributors. One was the 19th overall pick of the draft (Ja'Waun James OL) whereas Tiny would've also been taken ridiculously high as an LT were it not for his health.

Dooley had:
Tyler Bray
Da'Rick Rodgers (who would've been a great NFL WR had he not been a head case)
Mychal Rivera - TE
Justin Hunter - WR
Cordarrelle Patterson - WR

And many more. He even had Malik Jackson. It's insane the amount of NFL talent he wasted.

This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 7:56 pm
Posted by vosams
Green Hills
Member since Sep 2014
446 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:28 pm to
JLS. He didn’t put 12 men on the field vs LSU at all in his tenure.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26104 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 5:46 am to
It seems as if the Derek Dooley/ John L. Smith/ C. Butch Jones Wall Of Flaw has been replaced by LSU's Orgeron. He may prove the worst SEC coach in recorded history.
Posted by dammitbert
Member since Aug 2016
622 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:25 am to
Johnelle took a team that finished #5 in the final AP poll the year before to 4-8, and we still haven't recovered to a consistent top 25 team.

Has any SEC HC actually done more damage to a program in such a short amount of time? I doubt it.
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9828 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:27 am to
quote:

John L. Smith


Just here to post this:

Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:37 am to
Tennessee serves as a good proving grounds for young coaches. Prepares them to be ready for a big time job like OC at Mizzou.

Arkansas is just a wasteland where coaches go to get a check and fade away. So who cares.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:

young coaches


Uhhh, he's about to turn fiddy.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7822 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:52 am to
quote:

JLS. He didn’t put 12 men on the field vs LSU at all in his tenure.



It was actually 13.
Posted by dan765
Charleston
Member since Aug 2016
1170 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:59 pm to
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recievers


quote:

reviever


Bro...
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:03 pm to
I want to start a thread entitled "Who is a better poster, the poster who makes the original stupid thread or the poster who copies it for the 10th time as a joke" but I can't figure out how to do so without being crushed by the irony and hypocrisy. FML.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17250 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:11 pm to
Why isn't O in this discussion ?
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