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re: Who was more hated at the time?

Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:53 am to
Posted by DBeaux225
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:53 am to
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He seems to have grown up and mellowed out a lot.


The NFL humbled him
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:59 am to
How do UF fans remember Spurrier?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:05 am to
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How do UF fans remember Spurrier?



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Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:07 am to
I meant more in the abstract.

Do y'all wish he'd never left? Would he have had as much success as Zook/Meyer/Mushamp (and I know 1 is not like the others)?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47196 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:10 am to
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Would he have had as much success as Zook


Yes.

quote:

Meyer


No.

quote:


Do y'all wish he'd never left?


No.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7432 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:15 am to
So it's the consensus belief of UF fans that Spurrier would have won < 2 MNCs had he not bolted for DC?

Or are there other reasons you don't miss him?
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:15 am to
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How do UF fans remember Spurrier?


Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:16 am to
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So it's the consensus belief of UF fans that Spurrier would have won < 2 MNCs had he not bolted for DC?
Just sounds like one guy to me.

I'd be willing to bet most UF fans consider Spurrier a better coach than Meyer
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:16 am to
We love Spurrier. He'll always be the premier Gator (Right along side Danny and Timmy). Would he have won 2 more National Championships? Probably not. Do we miss him? No, we've had two awesome coaches since he left.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:17 am to
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I'd be willing to bet most UF fans consider Spurrier a better coach than Meyer


I pray to God Meyer has a heart attack every night before bed. But, that has nothing to do with his coaching ability. And it's not just one guy.

Florida fans love Spurrier and hate Meyer. But, nobody is claiming Spurrier would've won more here than Meyer. Meyer was a game away from 3 NC's in 4 years.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 3:18 am
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:20 am to
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People too young to remember the SEC in the 90s need not answer.


Spurrier in the 1990s at Florida

or

Saban in the 2010s at Alabama.



I say Spurrier. I know many LSU fans may disagree, but just think back and remember.


Urban Meyer
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:23 am to
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Meyer was a game away from 3 NC's in 4 years.
Very true but Spurrier won 4 straight SEC titles, and 5 in 6 years and may have been benefited from the BCS system allowing more national titles. Most of his career at Florida was before the BCS.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:25 am to
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Very true but Spurrier won 4 straight SEC titles, and 5 in 6 years and may have been benefited from the BCS system allowing more national titles. Most of his career at Florida was before the BCS.


Meyer was going up against a much more competitive SEC though. Really Spurrier was only competing against Tennessee and Alabama for most of his time at Florida. He had more competition from outside the conference (FSU) than anything else. Spurrier lost a lot of games to FSU, which is one of the reasons Meyer was revered. His record against our rivals:

Tennessee- 6-0
Georgia- 5-1
FSU- 6-0
Miami- 1-0

This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 3:27 am
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
23776 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:30 am to
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Meyer was going up against a much more competitive SEC though.

Meh, debatable. The only two teams that really stood in his way on annual basis were LSU and Georgia. Tennessee was down nearly every year he was there and FSU was a complete non-factor in Bowden's later years.

By the time Meyer got to UF, they were already established as an SEC power. Spurrier is the one that got them there.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62635 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:30 am to
Ok I'm not gonna argue with a Florida fan over whether OBC or CUM was better


Just interesting to consider 2006 for example. If 2006 had been pre-BCS, Florida would've played probably Notre Dame or Wake fricking Forest in the Sugar Bowl, and Ohio State would've played USC in the Rose Bowl. Basically, Florida may not have even had a chance to win the NC that year.

That was one of the advantages provided Meyer that Spurrier did not get to enjoy.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 3:32 am
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:31 am to
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Meyer was going up against a much more competitive SEC though. Really Spurrier was only competing against Tennessee and Alabama for most of his time at Florida. He had more competition from outside the conference (FSU) than anything else. Spurrier lost a lot of games to FSU, which is one of the reasons Meyer was revered. His record against our rivals:

Tennessee- 6-0
Georgia- 5-1
FSU- 6-0
Miami- 1-0


The reason why I hated Urban Meyer but didn't hate Spurrier boils down to personality. Spurrier was a dick, but he was funny. Meyer was just a smug a-hole.

Personality goes a long way.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40911 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:32 am to
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Meyer was going up against a much more competitive SEC though. Really Spurrier was only competing against Tennessee and Alabama for most of his time at Florida.


That was offset some by FSU who was a top 5 team every year during that stretch.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47196 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:33 am to
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That was offset some by FSU who was a top 5 team every year during that stretch.


I believe I said that in the next two sentences . But it's a lot easier to win the SEC win Florida State is good as opposed to Alabama/LSU
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62635 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:37 am to
The first 3 SECCG were all between Bama and Florida

And 4 out of the first 5

And 5 out of the first 9

National Title implications in 92 and 96 (at least)

08 and 09 were Bama/UF also, and was an NC semifinal game both years


Amazing.

To the Bama/Florida "rivalry"
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47196 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:38 am to
It'll get more interesting because of this aspect:

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