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Who do you think was a better college RB- D. Henry or M. Ingram?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:01 pm
PFF College put out a tweet asking people for their list of the top 5 college RBs of all time. I was surprised to see many people mention Mark Ingram but not as many mention Derrick Henry. Henry's Heisman season statistically blows Ingram's out of the water. Wanted to know what others here felt about it.
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:04 pm to PhillyFan1994
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Who do you think was a better college RB- D. Henry or M. Ingram?
Derrick Henry.
He had a long TD run in most every game in 2015 and it seemed like he also had multiple TDs in most games.
Ingram likely loses the Heisman if Toby Gerhart has a chance to match his SEC championship performance.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:04 pm to PhillyFan1994
Henry is a great back, with an ENORMOUS workload.
He averaged 5.6 yards a carry his Heisman season. If he isn't getting 395 touches he he isn't winning the Heisman. For reference, I think Baker Mayfield has 395 passing attempts that year.
So while Henry is a great back, there is a strong argument that Ingram who averaged 6.1 yards a carry while getting 120 less touches is while being more versatile out of the backfield was a better back.
If you look at Rush/Rec YArds form Scrimmage Ingram had 1992 yards on 303 touched. Henry Had 2310 on 406 touches.
Can anyone argue Ingram couldn't have gotten 318 more yards on 103 more touches?
He averaged 5.6 yards a carry his Heisman season. If he isn't getting 395 touches he he isn't winning the Heisman. For reference, I think Baker Mayfield has 395 passing attempts that year.
So while Henry is a great back, there is a strong argument that Ingram who averaged 6.1 yards a carry while getting 120 less touches is while being more versatile out of the backfield was a better back.
If you look at Rush/Rec YArds form Scrimmage Ingram had 1992 yards on 303 touched. Henry Had 2310 on 406 touches.
Can anyone argue Ingram couldn't have gotten 318 more yards on 103 more touches?
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:09 pm to SammyTiger
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So while Henry is a great back, there is a strong argument that Ingram who averaged 6.1 yards a carry while getting 120 less touches is while being more versatile out of the backfield was a better back.
Ingram also had the ability to rest his legs since he had Trent Richardson and Roy Upchurch backing him up that season. In 2015, nagging injuries with our back-up RBs made Henry THE back. He didn't have the luxury of resting for three or four plays at a time like Ingram did. Hence the higher number of carries and lower YPC average.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:12 pm to PhillyFan1994
Henry is the Bama GOAT.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:13 pm to PhillyFan1994
Neither. It's Leonard.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:13 pm to PhillyFan1994
Henry WON the Heisman
Ingram got the Heisman because nobody else of note played worth a shite.
Ingram got the Heisman because nobody else of note played worth a shite.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:17 pm to Roaad
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Ingram got the Heisman because nobody else of note played worth a shite.
And that year was labeled by ESPN as the "Year of the Quarterback." That was part of their marketing for the '09 season due to Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, and a couple other highly touted QBs returning for that season.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:18 pm to RollTide1987
He is a big strong back, and I would say Endurance is one of his best attributes. There definitely is something to be said about being able to run hard on your 40th carry of a game.
That being said, Ingram was better catching the ball out of the backfield. he average 6.1 yards a carry with a decently sized work load. There is at least an argument to be made.
Do you think if you have him 100 more touches he couldn't average over 3 yards/play with them?
That being said, Ingram was better catching the ball out of the backfield. he average 6.1 yards a carry with a decently sized work load. There is at least an argument to be made.
Do you think if you have him 100 more touches he couldn't average over 3 yards/play with them?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:22 pm to PhillyFan1994
D Henry was a monster. Still is
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:24 pm to RollTide1987
quote:All put up worse numbers than the previous season.
Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy
Sam was hurt most of the year, though
Ingram squeaked out a 28 pt win over Toby Gerhardt
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:48 pm to PhillyFan1994
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PFF College put out a tweet asking people for their list of the top 5 college RBs of all time. I was surprised to see many people mention Mark Ingram but not as many mention Derrick Henry. Henry's Heisman season statistically blows Ingram's out of the water. Wanted to know what others here felt about it
Tough question. Personally, I'd have to say Henry.
Neither were the kind of guy you wanted to have to tackle.
That said, Henry played against MUCH tougher rush defenses than Ingram. I love Ingram, and his success in the NFL proves his success wasn't due to weak defenses; however, the average rush defense he faced prior to the Heisman ceremony was 67; Henry's was 46. Henry faced 5 Top 25 rush defenses in 2015 prior to the playoffs; Ingram faced 1.
Both carried Alabama in games when other aspects of the offense were failing. Ingram carried the team over South Carolina when all else was going to crap. I don't think Henry ever had to carry the team QUITE to that same level.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:48 pm to Roaad
Henry was hard to bring down if he had a lane or space but if it wasn't there, he wasn't going to make something out of nothing. I remember in the 2014 Bama Ole Miss game, Yeldon was shredding Ole Miss for 6 ypc despite Ole Miss winning the LOS but they kept subbing Henry in. Henry had 37 yards on 17 carries while Yeldon had 123 yards on 20 carries.
I don't remember enough about Ingram to say if he could make something out of nothing or not.
I don't remember enough about Ingram to say if he could make something out of nothing or not.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 3:59 pm to Quicksilver
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Henry was hard to bring down if he had a lane or space but if it wasn't there, he wasn't going to make something out of nothing.
That was his biggest weakness. Henry has average acceleration and it takes him a few seconds to get up to full speed. If there was no hole there he would just fall through for a yard or two. If there was a hole, however, and he got to the second level, he was almost guaranteed 10 yards.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:01 pm to PhillyFan1994
I vote for Henry.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:08 pm to PhillyFan1994
I think both were and are great backs, but Ingram put Alabama on his back some games. I know Henry wore teams out and dominated games, but Ingram was an inspiration and that counts for something
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:39 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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Neither. It's Leonard.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:46 pm to PhillyFan1994
Ingram won because no one else was worth a damn that year. Suh was a better choice but played defense and Tebow had a suboptimal year. MI won by default. 
D Henry is a stud and literally twice the RB as Ingram. Henry is also a better RB than LF.
D Henry is a stud and literally twice the RB as Ingram. Henry is also a better RB than LF.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:23 pm to PhillyFan1994
Give me Henry 1a.
Then Lacy 1b.
Lastly Ingram 1c.
Scarborough could have been better than all of them. Unfortunately, his health became an issue in playing time. He was personally, a one man wrecking crew against Clemson before breaking his leg against them in the Title game of the CFP'S.
Then Lacy 1b.
Lastly Ingram 1c.
Scarborough could have been better than all of them. Unfortunately, his health became an issue in playing time. He was personally, a one man wrecking crew against Clemson before breaking his leg against them in the Title game of the CFP'S.
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