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re: Which will be a better tandem? Yeldon and (insert RB here) or Blue and Hill?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:06 pm to wadewilson
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:06 pm to wadewilson
Mark Ingram was a better college back than Steven Ridley and its not even close. He may prove to be a better pro back as well, you're using a 2 year sample size
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Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:07 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Will Hill continue the tradition of offseason hype machine, only to let down again?
I think so.
I think so.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:12 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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If he's averaging 18 carries per game, in sure his stats would be better.
I see you picked that number because that is how many Ridley gets.
The thing is that even if he did get that many carries, his ypc is still lower than Ridley's, so he still wouldn't have as many yards.
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My point
I know what your point is, but you seem to be unable to recognize two other points:
1) Ingram kinda sucks and most New Orleans fans are not happy with the guy.
2) Almost universally, everyone thought Ingram was an absolute stud coming out of college. For fricks sake, he won the Heisman trophy. THE HEISMAN TROPHY. Ridley was an afterthought. I think it is pretty clear which back is better. Ingram has the Heisman curse, apparently.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:14 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Mark Ingram was a better college back than Steven Ridley and its not even close.
Ridley was only the main back for one year. Their statistics in 2010 are very comparable. I realize Ingram had a great year in 2009, but that was partly a product of the team.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:16 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Lol
Pierre Thomas doesn't have a problem when he's in the game. Neither does Chris Ivory.
Ingram has been garbage until late last season.
Pierre Thomas doesn't have a problem when he's in the game. Neither does Chris Ivory.
Ingram has been garbage until late last season.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:19 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Mark Ingram was a better college back than Steven Ridley and its not even close.
Ingram was a product of his team.
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He may prove to be a better pro back as well, you're using a 2 year sample size
Ridley has already had much more success, with a young backfield that is equally as talented as the one in New Orleans. Mark Ingram is in no danger of ever having a 1000 yard season.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:19 pm to wadewilson
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Replace Yeldon with Ingram and Hill with Ridley.
Yeldon's gonna be way better than Ingram. Not a fair comparison
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:21 pm to dawg4lyfe
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Yeldon's gonna be way better than Ingram. Not a fair comparison
I know, Yeldon may be even better than Trent Richardson.
There's just a general sentiment on this board that whatever running backs LSU puts on the field are inferior, and it's not true.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:24 pm to wadewilson
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There's just a general sentiment on this board that whatever running backs LSU puts on the field are inferior, and it's not true.
Gotcha, Hill's a beast
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:37 pm to wadewilson
Its the general sentiment because it is true.
Do you people not see how dumb it is to say that MI was better in college because he was a product of the system and then turn around and say Ridley is undoubtedly better in the pros, when they play in two completely different systems, MI's being the least run heavy in the NFL? Come on, people.
Do you people not see how dumb it is to say that MI was better in college because he was a product of the system and then turn around and say Ridley is undoubtedly better in the pros, when they play in two completely different systems, MI's being the least run heavy in the NFL? Come on, people.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:39 pm to Funky Tide 8
2.0 YPC Ingram 
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:42 pm to TxTiger82
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You can always devise a scheme that will stop a team from running or passing effectively, the problem is execution. In A&M's case the issue is they can do both so well with so many athletes. Can you stop Manziel from running? Sure, but then you leave yourself open to the pass which is just as deadly if not moreso.
After spotting A&M 12 pts. we shut the entire offense down for nearly three quarters. A&M added some window dressing late - but don't kid yourself - LSU shut A&M right down.
If you wish to continue to believe that go ahead, the truth is A&M had 5 turnovers that killed them. Here were the drive summaries outside of the 2 single play drives that ended the two halves after the 12-0 start (and remember that includes the called back TD on the unnecessary chop block that resulted in one of the FG's):
05:02 2 00:40 TA&M 31 3 4 Interception
Thomas Johnson took the wrong route and Manziel thew it right to an LSU defender. Nice play but a result of an A&M error.
01:49 2 01:03 TA&M 17 5 23 Fumble
Nice drive stopped by Malena not protecting the ball. Nice play by LSU but once again an A&M error.
00:11 2 00:11 TA&M 29 1 -2 End of Half
13:22 3 03:03 TA&M 26 6 17 Punt
Nice stop by LSU
09:49 3 02:17 TA&M 21 6 37 Interception
A&M was driving on LSU and Manziel throws a perfect pass to Evans that bounces out of his hands to an LSU player. Changes a first down inside the 25 to LSU's ball.
02:44 3 01:29 TA&M 37 5 14 Punt
Good stop by LSU
14:52 4 01:20 TA&M 49 4 14 Field Goal Missed
Great defense on the kicker?
08:35 4 01:07 TA&M 16 3 2 Field Goal Missed
Manziel makes a bad running lane decision on 1st down and a bad throw on 3rd down, either of which would have been a TD. Then Bertolet misses a chipshot FG.
04:55 4 01:35 TA&M 20 5 29 Interception
Bad decision by Manziel to force a ball that resulted in a pick. Nice play by LSU.
03:12 4 01:55 TA&M 20 9 80 Rushing Touchdown
00:10 4 00:10 TA&M 18 2 12 Fumble
End of game crazy play.
Props to LSU for the win, they deserved it. It's just inaccurate to say "LSU shut A&M right down". Moreso every error A&M made is correctable in that game and you had 2 really unusual occurrences that resulted in turnovers (the Malena fumble and the Evans drop/interception). If you are banking on A&M making all those mistakes again then more power to you.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:43 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Malena, Carson, Williams and Williams.
The Aggie Law Firm.
The Aggie Law Firm.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:53 pm to aggressor
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:57 pm to Funky Tide 8
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MI's being the least run heavy in the NFL?
In 2011, the Saints were either 4th or 6th in the league in rushing yards.
What's your excuse for Ingram's pathetic performance that year?
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Its the general sentiment because it is true.
It's only true in your willfully uninformed opinion.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:58 pm to Funky Tide 8
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you people
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Come on, people.
I got nothin'.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:59 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Mark Ingram was a better college back than Steven Ridley
definitely.
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He may prove to be a better pro back as well, you're using a 2 year sample size
maybe but if he stays with the Saints we'll never really know.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 2:15 pm to aggressor
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the truth is A&M had 5 turnovers that killed them.
Caused by LSU's defense, specifically our zone. LSU held A&M to its second lowest point total, and shut them out between the second and fourth quarters.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 2:21 pm to TxTiger82
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Their statistics in 2010 are very comparable
Mark missed two games in 2010, was still feeling the effects of his injury for most of the year, and he wasn't the main back, he and Richardson were like co-starters in 2010.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 2:23 pm to wadewilson
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that whatever running backs LSU puts on the field are inferior,
Well since Warewolf and Kenny "Already better than Richardson" Hilliard both proved LSU fans wrong, there is a legitimate reason to hold the verdict on Hill.
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