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re: Which will be a better tandem? Yeldon and (insert RB here) or Blue and Hill?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 11:42 am to gatordmb89
Posted on 3/10/13 at 11:42 am to gatordmb89
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OU didn't have the athletes on D to play the type of D I described. Also, the DE's have to be very disciplined and the DT's have to know what to do with their gap assignments.
This. And teams like LSU and Alabama are going to be well-prepared. It will be tough for Manziel to put up heisman numbers again.
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Posted on 3/10/13 at 11:45 am to gatordmb89
This thread is pointless. We all thought Ingram was way better than Ridley, but as it turns out that simply isn't the case. All of these backs play in different schemes, with different olines, against different opponents, etc and it's just comparing apples and oranges.
This post was edited on 3/10/13 at 11:47 am
Posted on 3/10/13 at 11:47 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Yeldon/Henry > All
Dear God have mercy
Dear God have mercy
Posted on 3/10/13 at 11:48 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Gurshall 
Posted on 3/10/13 at 11:54 am to MC123
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This thread is pointless. We all thought Ingram was way better than Ridley, but as it turns out that simply isn't the case. All of these backs play in different schemes, with different olines, against different opponents, etc and it's just comparing apples and oranges.
I pretty much agree. Vandy had a RB that would have put up the best numbers in the SEC by FAR if he played for Bama. The OL makes the RB.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:00 pm to gatordmb89
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This thread is pointless. We all thought Ingram was way better than Ridley, but as it turns out that simply isn't the case. All of these backs play in different schemes, with different olines, against different opponents, etc and it's just comparing apples and oranges.
Thhis is correct...
IMO the most talented RB tandem is LSU, the most productive RB tandem will be Alabama, the single best RB is Gurley.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:09 pm to TxTiger82
Georgia fans have blocked out that run by Blue... 
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Because anyone with two good eyes will tell you that Yeldon is better. What does Hill playing in less games havent to do with anything? Hill is a damn good RB, but not as good as Yeldon.
I agree, we all agree, some are just more argumentative.
Hill will have a chance to shine this year as a Soph, I look at him and Yeldon as being the two best in the SEC by years end barring injury.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:21 pm to FrankWhite'56
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Face it -- to beat this team you're going to have to score a lot of points.
LSU just played contain with a 3-man front and a zone in the secondary. Manziel looks confused.
Would something like that maybe work?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:36 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Which will be a better tandem?
Define better. Yards? TD? or winning/production?
Winning is most important to me. I'll take Bama's approach to RBs over anyone in the country until they get beat out consistently.
This post was edited on 3/10/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:51 pm to MC123
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We all thought Ingram was way better than Ridley, but as it turns out that simply isn't the case
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All of these backs play in different schemes, with different olines, against different opponents, etc and it's just comparing apples and oranges
Do you not see the extreme flaw in your reasoning here?
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:52 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Yeldon and (insert RB here).
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:55 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Do you not see the extreme flaw in your reasoning here?
Sure the way he put it is flawed, but to be fair, Ingram does kinda suck.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:56 pm to TxTiger82
J Will and Alex Collins.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:57 pm to TxTiger82
You can always devise a scheme that will stop a team from running or passing effectively, the problem is execution. In A&M's case the issue is they can do both so well with so many athletes. Can you stop Manziel from running? Sure, but then you leave yourself open to the pass which is just as deadly if not moreso. How about the RB's? A&M also finally has a real TE this year in Cam Clear that is going to make it that much harder to stop them.
For instance last year Mike Evans tore it up because of the size mismatches he caused. Now you have Evans, RSJ, and Clear all above 6'5 with huge leaping ability. A&M also added a ton of speed at WR and has 3 RB's that will be a significant passing threat out of the backfield.
The key is you can't stop it all. Something will always be open and thus the pressure is on Manziel. If he can read the defenses and make good decisions there really isn't a way to stop him. UF and Florida had decent success getting him to make bad decisions by confusing him but he's far more experienced now. What you will see next year is a Manziel that has a far stronger grasp of the offense running it an an even faster pace than last year.
No one has ever run the Air Raid/Spread with the talent A&M has on offense, much less with a guy like Manziel. The closest was Auburn with Cam Newton but he didn't have the complimentary talent Manziel has. The only way you are beating A&M next year is having success against their defense by scoring and sustaining long drives to shorten the game.
For instance last year Mike Evans tore it up because of the size mismatches he caused. Now you have Evans, RSJ, and Clear all above 6'5 with huge leaping ability. A&M also added a ton of speed at WR and has 3 RB's that will be a significant passing threat out of the backfield.
The key is you can't stop it all. Something will always be open and thus the pressure is on Manziel. If he can read the defenses and make good decisions there really isn't a way to stop him. UF and Florida had decent success getting him to make bad decisions by confusing him but he's far more experienced now. What you will see next year is a Manziel that has a far stronger grasp of the offense running it an an even faster pace than last year.
No one has ever run the Air Raid/Spread with the talent A&M has on offense, much less with a guy like Manziel. The closest was Auburn with Cam Newton but he didn't have the complimentary talent Manziel has. The only way you are beating A&M next year is having success against their defense by scoring and sustaining long drives to shorten the game.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 12:57 pm to TxTiger82
Reggie bush sucked in NO too
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:00 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Reggie bush sucked in NO too
Yeah well I'm pretty sure the Saints were hoping for more than 600 yards and 3.3/touch from their first round draft pick and first RB option.
Bush was never a first RB option, and you know that.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:02 pm to aggressor
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You can always devise a scheme that will stop a team from running or passing effectively, the problem is execution. In A&M's case the issue is they can do both so well with so many athletes. Can you stop Manziel from running? Sure, but then you leave yourself open to the pass which is just as deadly if not moreso.
After spotting A&M 12 pts. we shut the entire offense down for nearly three quarters. A&M added some window dressing late - but don't kid yourself - LSU shut A&M right down.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:04 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Because anyone with two good eyes will tell you that Yeldon is better. What does Hill playing in less games havent to do with anything? Hill is a damn good RB, but not as good as Yeldon.
Rewind 3 years. Replace Yeldon with Ingram and Hill with Ridley.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 1:04 pm to TxTiger82
If he's averaging 18 carries per game, in sure his stats would be better. My point is that New Orleans abandoned a commitment to the running game when deuce left town, yet it's ok to compare NFL backs in different schemes, but not college backs in different schemes?
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