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Which of the new SEC coaches is most likely to exceed expectations?
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:07 pm
I go with Drinkwitz at Mizzou, they may not be actually be better than UM, Arkansas or MSU, but their schedule is much more favorable. Arkansas and UM have some of the toughest schedules in the country. Also was really impressed with Drinkwitz's coaching last season, I know App State was already rolling, but that may have been their best team. Only loss to GA Southern when they were playing a wishbone team in extremely windy conditions
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 6:18 pm
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:16 pm to Mithridates6
I’ll have to ask you to define your version of overachieve? Is it a winning season and bowl eligibility? I’ll go with Kiffin but I wouldn’t be surprised if Drinkwitz sneaks up on some teams quietly at Mizzou.
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:17 pm to Mithridates6
Arkansas winning 2 games /yr is about to overachieve like a mofo winning 4 
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:17 pm to Mithridates6
I’m not sure success playing an easier schedule can be called overachieving. Probably hard to quantify without someone clearly performing beyond expectations. I might go against the grain and say Pittman overachieves.
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:19 pm to OleManDixon
247 says that Mississippi and Arkansas have the third and second-hardest schedules in the country respectively LINK /
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:27 pm to moester75
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I’ll have to ask you to define your version of overachieve? Is it a winning season and bowl eligibility? I’ll go with Kiffin
Kiffin hasn’t overachieved anywhere in his career.
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:27 pm to Mithridates6
Overachieve? That would look a bit different for each school.
I'm not sure Mizzou can be anything other than a .500 in conference every third year, also-ran. Do they have higher expectations? Doubt it.
The Mississippi schools are what they are. They lose a bunch to conference powers and fight each other hard. If either Lane or Leach win 4 straight against the other that's real success irrespective of the overall record. Can either win the division? Not in this SEC. Can they pick off LSU, Bama, or Auburn every now and then? Of course, but is that overachieving?
Pittboss has never been a head coach. Arky is probably the worst team in the SEC. I'd argue that a .500 season is overachieving, and he has a shot to do it in the next few years.
Likely to overachieve: None
Most likely to overachieve: Sam Pittman
I'm not sure Mizzou can be anything other than a .500 in conference every third year, also-ran. Do they have higher expectations? Doubt it.
The Mississippi schools are what they are. They lose a bunch to conference powers and fight each other hard. If either Lane or Leach win 4 straight against the other that's real success irrespective of the overall record. Can either win the division? Not in this SEC. Can they pick off LSU, Bama, or Auburn every now and then? Of course, but is that overachieving?
Pittboss has never been a head coach. Arky is probably the worst team in the SEC. I'd argue that a .500 season is overachieving, and he has a shot to do it in the next few years.
Likely to overachieve: None
Most likely to overachieve: Sam Pittman
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:55 pm to PorkDawg
PorkDawg I just humbly believe Kiffin will out recruit Leach. I’m not seeing Leach doing well in the living rooms or dens of potential recruits so unless y’all have an incredible staff of assistant coaches that can recruit in Starkville, I’m going with Kiffin over Leach in the OP’s question. If I end up being wrong I’ll eat my dung accordingly.
Posted on 6/20/20 at 4:55 pm to moester75
Maybe "exceed expectations" would be more apt
Posted on 6/20/20 at 5:10 pm to chillmonster
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I'm not sure Mizzou can be anything other than a .500 in conference every third year, also-ran. Do they have higher expectations? Doubt it.
Yeah, can’t be better than that
Back to back East champions
Posted on 6/20/20 at 5:56 pm to Mithridates6
What I see is a HC just took over Appalachian State without any help from former HC He was already gone and So How did he manage to win 12 games? He had no HC experience. Then go to Mizzou and hired new coaches on the offensive side and they were all much better the one Odom had and that is telling he is doing something right from the start. Then recruiting is also better. He is making real progress with the players on the team. He is going to be the one setting up the offense with a little help of any from the OC. That got to be telling you Barry Odom did win 6 games last year and was project to win 8-9 games last year. Drinkwitz did not blow games like Odom did each year. He is a defensive HC and I am seeing more failures from defensive HCs due to offense struggle and failure to find a good OC that will work in the SEC.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:01 pm to chillmonster
I like the Pittman hire a lot and he's put together a good staff + recruited well so far. This season's schedule may be too tough for much progress to show in the W-L column (if it takes place) but I think they're in good hands for the first time in a while
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:22 pm to Mithridates6
Old Miss is not without talent. Particularly on offense, they have some game changers. A decent returning OL. Questions are mostly on defense. However, Kiffin will get every bit of mileage he can on the "O" side of the ball and the "d" should be better if only from being more experienced. I believe 6-8 wins are possible. Get ready because it's sure to be a lot of fun!
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:25 pm to Mithridates6
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I like the Pittman hire a lot and he's put together a good staff + recruited well so far. This season's schedule may be too tough for much progress to show in the W-L column (if it takes place) but I think they're in good hands for the first time in a while
Maybe not! Do you think the OC and possible the DC will stay around for 4 years? I doubt!
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:37 pm to Mithridates6
Probably none of them.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:00 am to TrueLefty
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What I see is a HC just took over Appalachian State without any help from former HC He was already gone and So How did he manage to win 12 games? He had no HC experience. Then go to Mizzou and hired new coaches on the offensive side and they were all much better the one Odom had and that is telling he is doing something right from the start. Then recruiting is also better. He is making real progress with the players on the team. He is going to be the one setting up the offense with a little help of any from the OC. That got to be telling you Barry Odom did win 6 games last year and was project to win 8-9 games last year. Drinkwitz did not blow games like Odom did each year. He is a defensive HC and I am seeing more failures from defensive HCs due to offense struggle and failure to find a good OC that will work in the SEC
I told every single one of you dumb arse MIZ posters last Summer that you would get taken to the wood shed on your 8-9 win predictions.
Edit: It was 9-10, not 8-9. Told you Nov. would butt frick you and it did but it was the dumbest notion when posted before it happened.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 2:04 am
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:02 am to CrabInMyShoeMouth
I actually think I gave one cat the benefit of the doubt on an 8-4 prognostication because it was a damn good case, he's probably a lawyer.
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