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When UCF joins the big 12 will they make more tv money than FSU and Clemson…
Posted on 3/27/23 at 4:41 am
Posted on 3/27/23 at 4:41 am
…in the ACC?
Lol.
The ACC signed the worst television deal of all time and it doesn’t end until 2036.
Lol.
The ACC signed the worst television deal of all time and it doesn’t end until 2036.
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 6:30 am to Uga Alum
FSU and Clemson are in a world of trouble, and they know it.
Their only hope is to get 4 or so other schools to walk and for all of them to fight the GOR in court. The GOR looks unbeatable, but can you really defeat 6 state universities in their own state courts with judges that are alumni of those universities?
Texas courts allowed Texas Tech to crap on a valid contract. Could the same happen here?
Their only hope is to get 4 or so other schools to walk and for all of them to fight the GOR in court. The GOR looks unbeatable, but can you really defeat 6 state universities in their own state courts with judges that are alumni of those universities?
Texas courts allowed Texas Tech to crap on a valid contract. Could the same happen here?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 7:05 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
Does the Big Ten or the SEC even want either? The Big Ten always claims to want academic teams so I figured they'd rather have North Carolina and Virginia out of the ACC. This is the same conference that took in Rutgers and Maryland after all. And what does either really add to the SEC? I can see FSU over Clemson but other than the two schools feeling like SEC schools, I'm not sure they add value.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 7:09 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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FSU and Clemson are in a world of trouble, and they know it.
I feel bad for Clemson, but FSU made their bed when they chose the ACC over the SEC.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:38 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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feel bad for Clemson, but FSU made their bed when they chose the ACC over the SEC.
Then by following that logic, you shouldn't feel bad for Clemson. They had the same opportunity to leave the ACC when USC did. They stayed. We left, and wandered the wilderness for 20 years.
Now we're in the SEC with multiple natties in multiple sports. Clemson can go frick themselves, and wither and die in the ACC. They don't get a pass, or a lifeboat.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:40 am to RoyalAir
Not even close to the same. Clemson was never invited to the SEC.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:49 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Not even close to the same. Clemson was never invited to the SEC.
Because they never had the stones to leave their abusive conference.
Don't reward cowardice.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:50 am to Uga Alum
As long as ESPN is broadcasting ACC games they won't have a need to break up the ACC to get the big guns in the SEC. Look for the SEC and ACC to partner up with non conference games much like they're doing with basketball next season.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:56 am to RoyalAir
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Because they never had the stones to leave their abusive conference.
Don't reward cowardice.
You do realize Arkansas wasn't independent, right?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 10:48 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
quote:The Leach case was a matter of Leach suing for damages for breach of contract. Rather different deal. The beauty of the grant of rights is that it is enforceable through injunctive relief, so you get around most of the sovereign immunity problems. I don't think litigation is the way to go for FSU and Clemson.
FSU and Clemson are in a world of trouble, and they know it.
Their only hope is to get 4 or so other schools to walk and for all of them to fight the GOR in court. The GOR looks unbeatable, but can you really defeat 6 state universities in their own state courts with judges that are alumni of those universities?
Texas courts allowed Texas Tech to crap on a valid contract. Could the same happen here?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 10:53 am to twk
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The beauty of the grant of rights is that it is enforceable through injunctive relief, so you get around most of the sovereign immunity problems.
I am not one of them, but there are some Fourteenth Amendment experts that would strongly disagree with this statement.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:21 am to RoyalAir
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They had the same opportunity to leave the ACC when USC did.
You really should know a little bit more about college football history before posting.
First off, the SEC never made an offer to Clemson.
Second, USCe left the ACC in 1971, so your comment makes no sense.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:35 am to GusAU
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You really should know a little bit more about college football history before posting.
Second, USCe left the ACC in 1971, so your comment makes no sense.
Reading is fundamental. Usc and Clemson both were in the ACC at the same time. Both schools were fed up with the Tobacco Road schools, and decided to leave the ACC at the same time - 1971. At the 11th hour, Clemson backed out, and let USC leave on their own.
Ergo, they had the same opportunity to leave the ACC when USC did. My original post had nothing to do with Clemson being offered, and had everything to do with the fact that they didn't leave the ACC when they had the chance. Now, they can wither and die.
You really should know more about college football history before posting.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:44 am to Uga Alum
By the time the 2036 contract would be up, Vanderbilt would have received close to 700 million more dollars in revenue over a decade from TV money
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:49 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Not even close to the same. Clemson was never invited to the SEC.
When SC left the ACC, they left because of the NC basketball schools running the show, primarily UNC. Clemson and SC were supposed to leave at the same time, but at the last min, Clemson got cold feet and stayed in the ACC. I personally have no doubt that if Clemson had left too, Arky wouldn't have gotten an invite in '92. It would have been the two SC schools as a package to join the SEC at the first expansion.
Clemson made a decision in 1971 that has dominoed until today...
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:52 am to Uga Alum
And if the OP pulls Sad UCF out of lurking, I swear 1/2 the rant is going to kick the OP in the crotch...
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:32 pm to Uga Alum
Why is everyone somehow continually surprised that a tv deal signed 7 years ago makes less money per school than one signed now?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:38 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
[quote]FSU and Clemson are in a world of trouble, and they know it./quote]
They, their fans, either don't get it or they are in a state of denial.
FSU and Clemson are in desperate waters right now. They're looking for someone to toss them a life jacket but their past history has made them expendable among the conferences.
FSU and Clemson have both made enemies over the decades, with their really nasty dirty recruiting tactics behind the scenes.
They'll never be invited to join the SEC and they know it.
They, their fans, either don't get it or they are in a state of denial.
FSU and Clemson are in desperate waters right now. They're looking for someone to toss them a life jacket but their past history has made them expendable among the conferences.
FSU and Clemson have both made enemies over the decades, with their really nasty dirty recruiting tactics behind the scenes.
They'll never be invited to join the SEC and they know it.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:51 pm to scrooster
They probably would be invited to join the SEC, along with UNC and another school.
It's time to jump ship, which is too bad because the ACC was a fine conference for many years. Just not making enough on the TV deal now.
It's time to jump ship, which is too bad because the ACC was a fine conference for many years. Just not making enough on the TV deal now.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:08 pm to scrooster
I'd like to see them join, just to see FL and USC pissed.
Then I'd like to see Ga Tech join. And then Louisville. and Miami. And maybe ULaLa
All should experience the wonderful news that your once-lovely sole membership has been revoked by fellow members.
Then I'd like to see Ga Tech join. And then Louisville. and Miami. And maybe ULaLa
All should experience the wonderful news that your once-lovely sole membership has been revoked by fellow members.
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