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re: When Top 5 teams have met twice, the team that lost initially went on to win by 21+

Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by DannyBateman
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:09 pm to
uga a LOCK ...
Posted by tmjones2
TX
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:14 pm to
So we've got one game that happened in 1959, go ahead and throw that one out.

One game was the 9-6 game where Bama only lost the first time b/c they missed 4 field goals.

We've also got a game that hasn't happened yet in the graphic, so we're really talking about 2 games here.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37369 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:23 pm to
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Funny how nobody is screaming their heads off about Georgia getting a "mulligan." Wonder what the difference from 2011 is


That UGA actually in won their division as an undefeated team, played in their conference championship game, and that there’s now a playoff where they had to beat a power 5 conference champ to make the title game as opposed to sitting at home and resting up and scouting conference championship weekend.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6022 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:27 pm to
Already woulda been a horrible loss for Georgia. This stat just adds to it.

So much in their favor.
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:43 pm to
Hmmm 1959? Jesus ... going way back to make a point.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6748 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:48 pm to
Well, since Georgia was ranked third, they wouldn’t have gotten a rematch if it was still two teams. But it’s now 4 teams, not 2. A subtle difference, perhaps you weren’t aware
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:52 pm to
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The two best teams are playing for the national championship. Just like in 2011.


It’s really that simple. As much as I was hoping Okie St. would have gotten the nod (for obvious reasons), it’s pretty amazing just how dominant 2011 LSU and Alabama were. No one else gave either one of them much of a game.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:14 pm to
Well, this statistically relevant sample size has me complete convinced.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24409 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:57 pm to
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Well, since Georgia was ranked third, they wouldn’t have gotten a rematch if it was still two teams. But it’s now 4 teams, not 2. A subtle difference, perhaps you weren’t aware


My understanding was that it wasn’t because Oklahoma State was more deserving. It was because a team that didn’t win its conference got a rematch against a team that beat them already. And that the conference champion had to beat the same opponent twice to win it all
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6748 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:30 pm to
The only legit gripe I’ve ever seen about the situation is that Bama got to sit and prepare while LSU had to play another game. Usually the 1st place team gets the bye. Do I think that changed the outcome. Not at all. Bama utterly dominated the NC game (21-0 doesn’t do justice to how one sided the game was). But as I said no doubt Alabama would have destroyed Okie St. The two best teams that year were clearly LSU and Alabama. Truthfully, I doubt there has ever been a season where two teams were so clearly superior to everyone else. If the goal is to get the two best teams in the Championship game, then that happened. I know I was hoping it was OSU because Saban with 5+ weeks to prepare just exacerbated the coaching mismatch.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:33 pm to
No former assistant could beat Saban either until one did. shite happens
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
1808 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 5:11 am to
Means nothing
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64361 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 5:26 am to
Billy Cannon stepped out of bounds
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 5:27 am to
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The only legit gripe I’ve ever seen about the situation is that Bama got to sit and prepare while LSU had to play another game.


But that's not the case, the final Regular BCS rankings came after SEC Championship game. Both teams had the same amount of time to prepare for that game.
Posted by jumpstart
Member since Jun 2018
919 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:41 am to
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When Top 5 teams have met twice, the team that lost initially went on to win by 21+
This is nothing but an odd occurrence. It has absolutely nothing to do with the game Monday...or if it happens in the future. If people are looking at this as a "factual" result Monday then you're an idiot. Could it happen again...sure....but odds are that it will end, and Monday could very well end this, as it has ended many oddities that have occurred over time.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 6:57 am
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:50 am to
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Notre Dame vs Clemson 2020


Notre Dame played against DJU who we now know isn't that good (at least right now) then played Lawrence in the second game.

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Bama LSU 2011


A 3 point loss is pretty different from a 17 point loss, I think Bryce is a tad better than Jordan Jefferson

quote:

1996 FSU/Florida


This game is probably the best example of a team bouncing back because I have no idea what happened in a game in the 50's (and its not really relevant anyway because football is so different now). FSU pounded DannyW in the first game, Florida fixed the issues in the rematch.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14783 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:52 am to
Kirby smart gonna snap that streak. Stetson ain’t beating bama by 21
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1890 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:26 am to
In all the previous matchups the better team lost the first game. It is hard to beat a better team twice, hell it is hard to beat them once.

In Mondays rematch the better team won the first game.
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
22888 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:52 am to
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Why does it look like 1996 wasn't 21 points?

It's by 21 or more points.
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
22888 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:56 am to
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Well, this statistically relevant sample size has me complete convinced.

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