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re: What's more pathetic: SEC-W "Co-Champion" banner or rings?

Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:41 pm to
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in a way easier division


Funny. I thought the east teams had a winning record against the west last season.

#Delusionsofthewest
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44018 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:41 pm to
Funny thing about '96 and '97.

If Auburn had beaten Alabama in 1996, LSU would've been the West champ - Auburn lost by one point when Alabama scored with seconds left on the clock.

If Alabama had beaten Auburn in 1997, LSU would've been the West champ - Alabama lost by one point after a late fumble let Auburn score a FG with just seconds left on the clock.

Both games had LSU fans thinking LSU would be the division champs right up until the very end of the game. It was excruciating.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Georgia historically has been nothing.

Tell us all about the SEC Championships and National Titles Mississippi State has.

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Florida is the better team in the east.


Wonder why they are struggling to beat us. Seems odd that a much better team has gotten beaten the last two years. Coaching, maybe?

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Heck even a Tennessee

Okay. now you are just trolling.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98824 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:44 pm to
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State would have won the east a couple of those years so winning the SEC east isn't really something to brag about. Your side of the conference has been shite in pretty much every sport minus basketball


State is right at .500 in their series with Kentucky. Let’s not act like State wouldn’t be in a similar position as Kentucky in terms of winning the division in most years.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5687 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:46 pm to
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State is right at .500 in their series with Kentucky. Let’s not act like State wouldn’t be in a similar position as Kentucky in terms of winning the division in most years.

You must not remember how good state was in the 90's when Bama and LSU were down.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:46 pm to
Those are child's play when it comes to embarrassing.

This is how you do pathetic.


Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Both games had LSU fans thinking LSU would be the division champs right up until the very end of the game. It was excruciating.


Tell us about it. We thought we would be National Champions and SEC Champions the last two years.


I have no problem with LSU or any other team making rings or anything else for the kids to show off. If GT can say they won a National Championship in 1990 when they shared it with Colorado, then why can't LSU share a title with somebody? I bet GT got rings.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64422 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:52 pm to
Players get rings for simply playing in bowls now, not even winning them. I don’t really have an issue with teams giving players mementos for seasons.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:54 pm to
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State would have won the east a couple of those years


There is absolutely no idea to know that.

What we can do is consult the S&P+ rankings to see where MSU was rated compared to the SEC East teams each year:

2005: 7th out of 7
2006: 7th out of 7
2007: 7th out of 7
2008: 7th out of 7
2009: 5th out of 7
2010: 4th out of 7
2011: 5th out of 7
2012: 6th out of 8
2013: 4th out of 8
2014: 2nd out of 8
2015: 3rd out of 8
2016: 4th out of 8
2017: 2nd out of 8
2018: 2nd out of 8

Color me not impressed.

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so winning the SEC east isn't really something to brag about.


So if being the best in the East is nothing to brag about, how would you describe Mississippi State football which has never in its history produced a team good enough to win the division?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44018 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:01 pm to
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I bet GT got rings.

I bet GT got an actual trophy:



Yep. That's kind of a big difference to me, I'm not all about getting second place/co-champ/runners up rings.

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We thought we would be National Champions and SEC Champions the last two years.

Yeah, y'all came close, I bet it was heartbreaking.

But it sure is weird following a game between two teams deciding the post season fate of a third. And while it didn't work out for LSU in '96 or '97, GOD BLESS PITT!
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:56 pm to
Jesus some of ya'll are triggered. I'm talking a couple of years out of the Dan Mullen era when the Eastern division was down. If you swap Georgia and MSU then we would have won the east a couple of those years. You guys don't play Bama and LSU every year.

2010 we beat both Georgia and Florida. that was one of the years.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:02 pm to
Its a gift for the kids. Not a big deal.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:04 pm to
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If Auburn had beaten Alabama in 1996, LSU would've been the West champ - Auburn lost by one point when Alabama scored with seconds left on the clock.



Dennis Fvckin Riddle baby

Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:09 pm to
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I don’t know what’s more embarrassing... that, the A&M 74-72
not sure what you're getting at but the a&m game is definitely not embarrassing for lsu. it's embarrassing for cfb and for officiating and for the sec.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:11 pm to
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Keep in mind that in the 22 seasons prior to 1996
lsu is equal to uga all time in wins. "but lsu fb started in 2000!"

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They were essentially an extension of the Mississippi schools at that point in time
so would you describe uga that way?

this response didn't work out the way you planned did it?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:27 pm to
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2010 we beat both Georgia and Florida. that was one of the years.


You might have, but South Carolina had an excellent team that year, so assuming you would have beaten them out is a stretch too.....I mean, nobody knows. maybe you would have, maybe you wouldn't. but Auburn won the National Championship that year, and only beat South Carolina by 8 for the SEC title.

People think you can just plug and play a team in another division or conference and make a blanket statement, but you can't. You change even one team and the whole dynamics of a season is thrown off and the season plays out completely differently.

ETA
I will say that after looking at how the season played out, it might not be too far fetched to say MState might have won the East, though.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
Member since May 2019
1480 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:12 pm to
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Auburn won the National Championship that year, and only beat South Carolina by 8 for the SEC title.

Wrong.

The Barn beat Scar by 8 in the regular season then beat the absolute frick out of them in the SECCG.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:15 pm to
How many NC does LSU have this century ?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:33 pm to
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National Titles:
Georgia: 1 (1980)
LSU: 0


So 1958 never happened? Lol
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3254 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:29 pm to
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It is pretty pathetic


If I were a UGA fan, who’s won the SEC a grand total of 4 times since 1981, I doubt I’d be bringing up old stats from another school. Of course, when 1980 is your best year ever, though, I guess I get it.

36-16.
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