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What the Auburn/Cam Situation Taught All Of Us
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:48 pm
The whole thing is corrupt and if your team is any good at all in a major college sport, it’s corrupt. And no one cares unless you have a smoking gun and can use a school as an example to pretend this is still amateur athletics. Will Wade is guilty of being stupid.
As for paying players, whether it is proven or not, I’m sure he does. I’m sure every team that gets top recruits and wins also pays players. Football and basketball. And if you think otherwise, you’re a fool.
College sports is a multi-Billion dollar business that only exists because it keeps the facade of amateur athletics going. Once this whole thing crumbles and it’s obvious to the whole world players are getting paid everywhere, it all starts to fall apart. And, no one is paying the money they pay to watch a second rate developmental league.
Everyone needs to wake up. I was late to the game and finally realized it with Auburn/Cam. But, whatever. We’re all complicit. If you cheer for your team, you’re helping to enable this and going along with the lie. Whatever. I don’t care. Have fun. But, the outrage machine that was employed in this situation to keep the facade going really is comical. And, we all help it along.
We’re all sheep while the universities, networks, shoe companies, and pro leagues bilk us all and keep the pipeline of poor players flowing into the system.
It’s fine. Just know what it is. They won’t take down UNC, Kansas, Duke, Indiana, Kentucky, etc because they need them to make the money. It’s easy to make an example out of LSU in basketball and Ole Miss in football because it doesn’t mess up the game and it keeps the allusion of amateur sports going so they can keep the money flowing.
That’s the reality and we all know it, but don’t want to admit it because we like the illusion.
As for paying players, whether it is proven or not, I’m sure he does. I’m sure every team that gets top recruits and wins also pays players. Football and basketball. And if you think otherwise, you’re a fool.
College sports is a multi-Billion dollar business that only exists because it keeps the facade of amateur athletics going. Once this whole thing crumbles and it’s obvious to the whole world players are getting paid everywhere, it all starts to fall apart. And, no one is paying the money they pay to watch a second rate developmental league.
Everyone needs to wake up. I was late to the game and finally realized it with Auburn/Cam. But, whatever. We’re all complicit. If you cheer for your team, you’re helping to enable this and going along with the lie. Whatever. I don’t care. Have fun. But, the outrage machine that was employed in this situation to keep the facade going really is comical. And, we all help it along.
We’re all sheep while the universities, networks, shoe companies, and pro leagues bilk us all and keep the pipeline of poor players flowing into the system.
It’s fine. Just know what it is. They won’t take down UNC, Kansas, Duke, Indiana, Kentucky, etc because they need them to make the money. It’s easy to make an example out of LSU in basketball and Ole Miss in football because it doesn’t mess up the game and it keeps the allusion of amateur sports going so they can keep the money flowing.
That’s the reality and we all know it, but don’t want to admit it because we like the illusion.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:49 pm to AlaTiger
So basically the best teams are those that out-bid the rest.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:52 pm to EST
I mean, tradition, facilities, getting to the pros, and coaching go into too, so it isn’t all money. But the money flows as well and that’s part of what “big time college athletics” is. We all know that and it’s been that way a long time. And, we’re all complicit in it.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:52 pm to AlaTiger
No, that’s why the LSU situation is teaching you now
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:55 pm to Rig
Okay, guy. But, I realized it watching the Auburn debacle almost a decade ago. My eyes were opened and I realized it had been going on a long time before that all over. Auburn wasn’t alone. They were just playing the game like everyone else. Stay in your illusion. Enjoy it.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:56 pm to AlaTiger
In this country you have to actually have evidence before you can convict someone outside the court of public opinion. Your example of Auburn/Cam proved that is the case even in sports. Auburn was looked at and investigated as thoroughly as anyone in the history of the NCAA in relationship to Cam. They found nothing and even complimented AU for it's compliance. The problem is the fans of other schools can not accept it. That is the lesson that the Auburn/Cam Situation taught us: Fans opinion's do not mean shite.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:58 pm to AlaTiger
I’m in no illusion. I’m just laughing that your conclusion that you supposedly made about Auburn/Cam and the NCAA a decade agois just now being posted.
Thank you for the enlightenment that you had 10 years ago and certainly not now that LSU has its hand caught in the cookie jar
Thank you for the enlightenment that you had 10 years ago and certainly not now that LSU has its hand caught in the cookie jar
Posted on 3/10/19 at 2:59 pm to Irons Puppet
Lol. Okay.
OJ was innocent too.
Stay in fantasy land. Whatever.
I’m sure LSU was paying Patrick Peterson that year too. We actually heard reports that we were. I wasn’t surprised at all. Keep your head in the sand, though.
OJ was innocent too.
Stay in fantasy land. Whatever.
I’m sure LSU was paying Patrick Peterson that year too. We actually heard reports that we were. I wasn’t surprised at all. Keep your head in the sand, though.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:01 pm to AlaTiger
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OJ was innocent too.
Stay in fantasy land. Whatever.
I’m sure LSU was paying Patrick Peterson that year too. We actually heard reports that we were. I wasn’t surprised at all. Keep your head in the sand, though.
Was O.J ever indicted for his crimes ? Was AU ever brought up for charges in relationship to Cam ? DA's need to understand the difference.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:01 pm to AlaTiger
Yea, I don't remember any LSU fans preaching that post-Cam. I remember them beginning to preach it as of about 48 hours ago.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:02 pm to Rig
I said it then too, by the way. And I’m not saying Wade didn’t pay players. I’m trying to make a larger point.
But, fine. Here ya go ...
Top teams have been paying top players for years and years ... except for Auburn paying Cam in 2010, which was totally legit. So, other than that, this goes on all over and is part of a large scale con that is making a lot of people a lot of money over a long period of time.
Except for Auburn and Cam.
Happy? Go stare at you 2010 BCS Banner and be happy. I honestly don’t care. Illusions are fun.
But, fine. Here ya go ...
Top teams have been paying top players for years and years ... except for Auburn paying Cam in 2010, which was totally legit. So, other than that, this goes on all over and is part of a large scale con that is making a lot of people a lot of money over a long period of time.
Except for Auburn and Cam.
Happy? Go stare at you 2010 BCS Banner and be happy. I honestly don’t care. Illusions are fun.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Exactly!
Yea, I don't remember any LSU fans preaching that post-Cam. I remember them beginning to preach it as of about 48 hours ago.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:03 pm to AlaTiger
I mean I agree with your sentiments and if you believed that pre-Wade stuff then more power to you.
Most LSU fans here were calling everyone else cheaters because "you know they cheat" or some evidence far less than Wade on the phone.
Most LSU fans here were calling everyone else cheaters because "you know they cheat" or some evidence far less than Wade on the phone.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:04 pm to AlaTiger
You’re so mad and delusional you can’t comprehend my post
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Um, anyone with eyes has said this for years. I don’t jump and down over other schools getting exposed because I kind of just shrug and am glad my team didn’t get caught.
Whatever.
It’s only LSU then. College athletics was totally clean before this week and Will Wade sullying the pristine reputation of college basketball! How dare he!
Clutching pearls can be tiresome.
Whatever.
It’s only LSU then. College athletics was totally clean before this week and Will Wade sullying the pristine reputation of college basketball! How dare he!
Clutching pearls can be tiresome.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:05 pm to AlaTiger
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Um, anyone with eyes has said this for years. I don’t jump and down over other schools getting exposed because I kind of just shrug and am glad my team didn’t get caught
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:06 pm to Rig
Dude, I’m not even a little mad. I honestly had no emotion when I saw the Will Wade news this week, except for some mild disappointment that a good season was ruined. Oh well. It is what it is. I’m using all of this to make a larger point about college sports.
Believe what you will.
Believe what you will.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:08 pm to AlaTiger
Yea, I mean, I think we should all agree that most programs in big time college sports (mainly basketball/football) cheat to some degree. I do think there are probably some who are going 80 in a 50 and some who are going 55 in a 50, but almost everybody is cheating in some way (even if it isn't the head coach or any of his coaches).
I think that football is much more smalltime (cash handshakes, car loans at a better rate, finding jobs for parents, etc) than basketball, solely due to the fact that it's just much easier in basketball with the AAU and shoe deal stuff to funnel money than it is in football.
I think that football is much more smalltime (cash handshakes, car loans at a better rate, finding jobs for parents, etc) than basketball, solely due to the fact that it's just much easier in basketball with the AAU and shoe deal stuff to funnel money than it is in football.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Thanks for getting my point. The last time I got upset about a school paying players was Auburn and Cam. When that was all over I just said, “Oh, I get it. What a fool I was.” I’ve ignored all this stuff ever since. Now my school gets pinched and it’s a shame and whatnot that Wade was stupid enough to get caught. That alone is a fireable offense because he won’t be successful in the long run if he isn’t more skilled at doing what everyone else does.
It is what it is. So be it.
It is what it is. So be it.
Posted on 3/10/19 at 3:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I just don't get how using a different school's run- ins with the rulemakers is considered a legit defense for what your school is being scrutinized for. Even IF Bama/AU/NC/Duke has gotten away with stuff, it STILL doesn't somehow justify why your school should be ignored.
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