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What matters more to be in the playoff, Best win or Worse loss?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:52 am
I guess the way the polls were before yesterdays games now means who goes, Alabama or Ohio State correct?
So now we are choosing between these two teams, argument seems to be better wins vs worst losses.
Which one matters to the you? How do you compare these two teams?
Me, I don't care to see Bama make it because they didn't have to play the extra game in the Conference Championship, but when I compare them to Ohio State with it's two bad losses in my mind I have to go with Bama. This is my opinion, what's yours?
So now we are choosing between these two teams, argument seems to be better wins vs worst losses.
Which one matters to the you? How do you compare these two teams?
Me, I don't care to see Bama make it because they didn't have to play the extra game in the Conference Championship, but when I compare them to Ohio State with it's two bad losses in my mind I have to go with Bama. This is my opinion, what's yours?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:53 am to LSU40
How bout Conference champ or not?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:54 am to burke985
Your argument would make sense..but Ohio St. got in over a conference champ Penn St last year..sooooo
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:54 am to LSU40
If it was 8 teams then Alabama absolutely should be there. But it's not you have to reward the teams that actually played and won the extra game to be crowned conference champ with only 4 teams making it.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:54 am to burke985
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How bout Conference champ or not?
That question was answered last year.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:55 am to burke985
With people voting it will always be fricked up. That is why you should have to play your way to a title not get the benefit of the doubt
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:56 am to LSU40
Bad losses should always outweigh good wins. Especially when you get stomped by 31 points by an unranked team in early Nov.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:56 am to burke985
This is true, except last year Ohio State went before Penn State, correct? I am using last years picking model, don't mean I'm correct though.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:03 am to burke985
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With people voting it will always be fricked up.
This.
A tournament of champions is the only objective way to do it.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:06 am to Crimson Wraith
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Bad losses should always outweigh good wins
Except that it's almost always the opposite, good wins beat bad losses. I believe that's why LSU got in over USC in 2003 and UGA in 2007.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:18 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Maybe the committee learned their lesson last year. Last year, they put in The Ohio State University over the Big 10 champ because they "passed the eye test". We all know what happened. This year, do they leave Bama out because they are scared of the same thing hapening again?
Also, there is serious SEC and Bama fatigue. Would they be scared of an all SEC final game? Possibly. Bama is obviously talented, but I just don't see it happening.
Also, there is serious SEC and Bama fatigue. Would they be scared of an all SEC final game? Possibly. Bama is obviously talented, but I just don't see it happening.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:24 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:A bad loss can be written off as a fluke in some people's minds, you overlooked somebody or just had terrible breaks that day.
Bad losses should always outweigh good wins
Except that it's almost always the opposite, good wins beat bad losses. I believe that's why LSU got in over USC in 2003 and UGA in 2007.
A good win generally assumes both teams are focused and ready, and the winner displayed they were better head-to-head vs another good team.
Oklahoma over Ohio State, Clemson over Auburn can be seen as good wins.
Couple of interesting things to note- Ohio State is on the losing end of a "good win", the Oklahoma game. Nobody seems to mention that.
Also, as an LSU fan, honestly, Alabama claiming us as their best win is pretty weak. LSU is a solid mid-teens team, I think we lose to everybody who won in the championships yesterday. If you count those games, I would say Penn St and Wisconsin are better wins than anything Alabama did this year on the field.
Heck, I'd almost say Wisconsin should still get a look, they were outclassed physically and still almost pulled the game out at the end.
Committee should, just my opinion, go with 1 team from each conference. The conference championships are set to determine the best team from each conference, Georgia emerged this year. There's no way of knowing if the top SEC teams would win every matchup, or if the Big 10 teams would, other than personal opinion. If they take Alabama then this smells like 2011, which is what caused the committee to take over in the first place.
My answer would be this- Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, and... UCF. They went undefeated, which is all they could do on the field. Ohio State and USC both had 2 losses, and Alabama didn't make it to the conference championship. So give Cinderella a chance, and let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin.
Anybody run some BCS-type numbers, to see who would be ahead?
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