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re: What keeps Bama from becoming the next UGA once Saban retires/dies?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:41 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:41 am to Tuscaloosa
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A better question is what keeps Georgia from becoming Bama once Saban retires?
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:49 am to SCDawg95
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Guice and yaw yaw are too
Who did Orgeron supposedly rape?
You're so mad that your deflections don't even make sense
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:57 am to SidewalkTiger
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Its a valid question if we're all being honest with ourselves.
I love it when a fan base is so beaten down that they start talking about when their owner's coach retires....so embarrassingly pathetic.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 4:19 pm to BamaDude06
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Alabama won a SEC title with Mike fricking DuBose as head coach. We'll be ok
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Meanwhile, Bama hasn't functioned so well in the modern era without a GOAT head coach at the helm.
Side usually knows what he's talking about but he just pulled this one outta his arse.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 4:21 pm to BFANLC
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Side usually knows what he's talking about but he just pulled this one outta his arse.
I meant in the championship winning aspect.
Les Miles won a lot of games at LSU but wasn't doing well at winning titles.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 4:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
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What keeps Bama from becoming the next UGA once Saban retires/dies?
Name, Image and Likeness + playoff expansion.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 5:44 pm to 5Wide
Bryant and Saban made Alabama. They both have won a combined 12 national titles and 20 SEC titles in about 40 years with several other teams that could have won it all as well. In the 24 years between their tenures Bama won one national title ('92), three SEC titles, and had very few teams that were in contention late in the year (really only '89 and '94). Several ugly seasons in there, too, and some embarrassing losing streaks against Auburn.
Once you get to the Top 15 or so programs in the country that are all willing and able to invest the money it takes to win in big time college football, it's all about the head coach.
Once you get to the Top 15 or so programs in the country that are all willing and able to invest the money it takes to win in big time college football, it's all about the head coach.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 5:45 pm to SidewalkTiger
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A: A history of success that predates Saban
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What keeps Bama from becoming the next UGA once Saban retires/dies?
A: A history of success that predates Saban
Posted on 4/16/21 at 6:00 pm to Globetrotter747
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Bryant and Saban made Alabama.
Pre-Bama: 13 combined SEC seasons, 1 national title and 3 SEC titles
At Bama: 39 seasons, 12 national titles and 20 SEC titles
Alabama made Bryant and Saban.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 6:10 pm to 5Wide
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Alabama made Bryant and Saban
As would any other school who had the ability to provide them with the resources to win
Posted on 4/16/21 at 6:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
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What keeps Bama from becoming the next UGA
Maybe the fact that they aren’t UGA?
They’ll probably just do what they did last time and steal the next coach that wins a Natty at L1U.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 7:02 pm to SidewalkTiger
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What keeps Bama from becoming the next UGA once Saban retires/dies?
Yeah right. You mean the next Vanderbilt.
Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:13 pm to 5Wide
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Pre-Bama: 13 combined SEC seasons, 1 national title and 3 SEC titles At Bama: 39 seasons, 12 national titles and 20 SEC titles Alabama made Bryant and Saban.
First of all, no shite. Both spent their prime years at Bama. If both had spent 10 years at Bama and went somewhere else they would have taken their success with them.
Second, 13 SEC seasons with one natty and three SEC titles is a better track record than Bama had from 1983-2006. And what state was Alabama football in when both arrived in ‘58 and ‘07? Pretty shitty.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:22 pm to TigerLunatik
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LSU claims four national championships, in 1958, 2003, 2007, and 2019.
Yes, I know. So, therefore, LSU won 2 national titles from 1958-2003.
Zero from 1959-2002 (43 years). Georgia at 40 years now.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:29 pm to SidewalkTiger
Largest and best group of bagmen on the planet, now with even more resources. Unless they completely botch the hire and play politics they will not be down long if at all. They are the damn “Machine”
And yes I am jealous. Unlike most posters I think bama made Saban as much as he resurrected the program.
Old school but Bear Bryant is still bamas greatest coach as he saves SEC and Southern Football, as well as bama LSU Georgia, etc from itself in many ways. Saban is the Goat but Bear is still the best bama coach ever, if you are under 50 you probably have no clue what I am talking about but I remember having to listen to LSU USC etc on the damn radio because the TV games were all big ten etc
And yes I am jealous. Unlike most posters I think bama made Saban as much as he resurrected the program.
Old school but Bear Bryant is still bamas greatest coach as he saves SEC and Southern Football, as well as bama LSU Georgia, etc from itself in many ways. Saban is the Goat but Bear is still the best bama coach ever, if you are under 50 you probably have no clue what I am talking about but I remember having to listen to LSU USC etc on the damn radio because the TV games were all big ten etc
Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:34 pm to TidalSurge1
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LSU claims four national championships, in 1958, 2003, 2007, and 2019.
Yes, I know. So, therefore, LSU won 2 national titles from 1958-2003.
Zero from 1959-2002 (43 years).
1959-2002 wasn't the range of years given initially though. It was 1958-2003.
Thanks for the attempted math lesson. I appreciate your wanting to help.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:15 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:If the modern era began in 1960, then 37 of the 60 years since, means Bama has only had 23 years of non-GOAT football. A big handicap.
Meanwhile, Bama hasn't functioned so well in the modern era without a GOAT head coach at the helm.
But even in those 23 seasons, handicapped by it's first ever probation along with draconian scholarship reductions, for some of which the NCAA had to apologize, Bama still had 9 10 win seasons, 3 SEC titles and one National title in those 23 seasons.
Extrapolate that over 60 years and Bama would still have had 23 10 win seasons, 8 SECCs and 3 NCs (tied with LSU and UF in those 2 title categories, actually 1 less SECC than LSU), since 1960. Instead, the reality is that Bama has had 13 NCs (wire service only, Bama doesn't count 1966, 1977 or any other years. This is more NCs since 1960 than the rest of the SEC combined who has 9.) and 23 SEC titles since 1960. 7 of Bama's 11 coaches since the SEC was formed in 1933, including 5 of 8 since 1960, have won an SEC title.
Another reality is that the normal Bama condition is to have an 80+ %, NC winning coach. It's been that way for 5 coaches and 68 of the last 98 seasons, i.e., since 1923. So please understand Bama fan's optimism when contemplating the present and future of Alabama football.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:37 am to TutHillTiger
quote:You're right.
Old school but Bear Bryant is still bamas greatest coach as he saves SEC and Southern Football, as well as bama LSU Georgia, etc from itself in many ways.
And Alabama put Southern football on the map in 1926 when they went out to the Rose Bowl and beat a #1 rated Washington team.
"The 1926 Rose Bowl Game was held on January 1, 1926, in Pasadena, California. The game is commonly referred to as "The Game That Changed The South."[1] The game featured the Alabama Crimson Tide, making their first bowl appearance, and the Washington Huskies.
The Crimson Tide was led by Johnny Mack Brown. The Huskies by George "Wildcat" Wilson. [2]
Alabama were victorious 20–19, as they scored all twenty points in the third quarter. With the victory, the Crimson Tide were awarded with their first National Championship.
The game made its radio broadcast debut, with Charles Paddock, a sports writer and former Olympian track star, at the microphone.[3] Coach Wade was later inducted into the Rose Bowl Hall of Fame in 1990.[4]
Johnny Mack Brown went on to a long career as a movie actor, mostly in Westerns."
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:07 pm to coachcrisp
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Old school but Bear Bryant is still bamas greatest coach as he saves SEC and Southern Football, as well as bama LSU Georgia, etc from itself in many ways.
I have no idea what these means.SEC FB was doing just fine pre Bear and one can argue the 50's was its greatest decade up and until the 00's (yes I know Bear started @ Bama in '57) UT,LSU and AU all claimed NC's and GT and OM were powerhouses and could arguably lay claim to NC's.
The 60's saw a slight decline and by the 70's it was pretty much Bama and everybody else.It was not a good decade at all for the conference...perhaps the worst in the modern era.
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You're right
Not really.
ETA Kentucky also put out some good teams in the early part of the decade and UGA had a couple of top 10 teams with Wally Butts
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 4/17/21 at 12:13 pm to RD Dawg
Do you have a problem with the part of my post where I stated that Alabama put Southern football on the map?
Edit: Tenn, Auburn and LSU had Nattys in the 50s, while Alabama themselves, had three in the 60s, and was robbed of the 4th in '66.
Edit: Tenn, Auburn and LSU had Nattys in the 50s, while Alabama themselves, had three in the 60s, and was robbed of the 4th in '66.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 12:24 pm
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