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What is it with Malzahn and route trees

Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:31 pm
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4117 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:31 pm
Not trying to troll my own team. I never played American football growing up so I am genuinely curious why Malzahn doesn’t incorporate more sophisticated route trees into his arsenal - even adding simple routes such as slants down the middle of the field would seem to be a good idea. Malzahn is obviously a smart guy so why do our wide receivers only run routes to sides of the hash marks and deep routes - what am I missing?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30261 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:33 pm to
His high school offense is simple
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:33 pm to
Because he runs a scheme he based on the old Wing-T that you only see at the high school levels nowadays.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
3477 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:45 pm to
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slants down the middle of the field


Saving that for the Georgia game.
Posted by AllDawgCK
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
2275 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:47 pm to
Dont need them our pass D is horrible. Good luck running on us tho.
Posted by CFFreak
Rjyh, AL
Member since May 2019
8765 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:47 pm to
There are at most 4 options (and usually only 2) in his t-wing. These options must be very simple. Route trees are for sophisticated offenses like those employed by LSU, Alabama and Oklahoma. Not that your players couldn't ever execute them but because Gus cannot teach them.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24259 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:54 pm to
His passing plays are based on trickery and the defenders getting lulled to sleep by his running offense.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72865 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:55 pm to
It’s nothing more than high school level smoke and mirrors
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30179 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Not trying to troll my own team. I never played American football growing up so I am genuinely curious why Malzahn doesn’t incorporate more sophisticated route trees into his arsenal - even adding simple routes such as slants down the middle of the field would seem to be a good idea. Malzahn is obviously a smart guy so why do our wide receivers only run routes to sides of the hash marks and deep routes - what am I missing?


He's stubborn as hell!
He is a smart coach, but he thinks his offensive philosophy will work no matter what as long as his players execute the script.

When execution breaks down, or the opponent defends his scheme he goes into a shell. Nix became a liability in that UF game but your stubborn old Gus refused to inject some new legs and energy with Gatewood or even put his fastest players (Schwartz/Shivers) on the field to see if they could do better and give Nix time on the sideline to regroup.

You have a weakness at oline, Gus has the knowledge in him to scheme around that deficiency but he won't do it. There's no way he sits back and analyzes film and doesn't see the middle of the field wide arse open for his QB to take advantage.
Posted by Prometheus
Member since May 2012
6194 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:58 pm to
We had a good week of practice and got our edge back...

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30179 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:00 pm to
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It’s nothing more than high school level smoke and mirrors


And it's been predictable for years. He used to have personnel that could run his scheme and the opponent couldn't stop it even when they knew what was coming. But he no longer has those stout olinemen that could get serious push and open holes for 4-5* RB's to plow through. The oline is lacking and weak and they are Sr's. The RB's he's brought in aren't the SEC caliber he used to have.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30179 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

We had a good week of practice and got our edge back...


No doubt... and the future is bright.
Posted by Prometheus
Member since May 2012
6194 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:03 pm to
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RT1941


Just wait till next year. He needs at least 10 wins this year to buy him time after next years season.

Going to be a bad season next year.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30179 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:11 pm to
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Just wait till next year. He needs at least 10 wins this year to buy him time after next years season.

Going to be a bad season next year.
That oline will be green as a garden snake. Losing all those studs on the defense may not be as bad, it seems like Steele rotates a ton so at least those guys will have some PT under their belt.

He can still go 9-3 regular season/10-3 with a bowl win this year which would be a huge improvement over last yr and would buy some favor with the fans.
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:27 pm to
Every LSU fans question since Jarret Lee's freshman year..
Posted by CFFreak
Rjyh, AL
Member since May 2019
8765 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:23 am to
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He is a smart coach, but he thinks his offensive philosophy will work no matter what as long as his players execute the script.



He kind of has to believe that doesn't he? He has only gimmicks and nothing else. So, you live with the h.u. t-wing and you die by the h.u. t-wing
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15739 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:34 am to
“We are a two back, power running team first. We have to play fast and physical. We use play action to stretch the field. No doubt, we play in the best league in college football. We will get the tight end some touches.”
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:08 am to
You forgot to mention that the only time he’s ever won big is with a dynamic runner at QB. Yet he keeps playing Nix when he has that type of QB standing on the sidelines in Gatewood.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61547 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:20 am to
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:21 am to
Ask Les Miles the same
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