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re: What does playing a conference only schedule actually do?
Posted on 7/10/20 at 4:33 pm to Capstone2017
Posted on 7/10/20 at 4:33 pm to Capstone2017
Sure there are but I’d trade one good OoC game against USC for three great games against sec competition.
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 4:51 pm to Indefatigable
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If only there was an National Collegiate Athletic Association who would be in charge of facilitating the standards of competition across all of the conferences.
The NCAA fails miserably when it comes to providing real leadership in times of crisis
The NCAA's only skillset is bullying the players and protecting their bullshite definition of amateurism to keep a percentage of those billions away from the players that generated the money
When the time arises for the NCAA to lead and set policy that can assist their main Sport and their fans, the NCAA provides bupkis
For a long time the NCAA has been the worst run Organization in the history of this Planet
Posted on 7/10/20 at 4:57 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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The NCAA's only skillset is bullying the players and protecting their bullshite definition of amateurism to keep a percentage of those billions away from the players that generated the money
So tragic that the young men and women receive absolutely nothing in return. I mean, not even an education. Shame on those old white men.
Posted on 7/10/20 at 6:34 pm to SCgamecock2988
Playing the Conference Sked allows the Conference to legally say they met their contractual obligations, therefore forcing the TV Networks to have to meet their financial obligations of the contract, this keeps the MONEY flowing, by keeping the Money flowing this allows the Conference Commish to save the individual schools Athl Depts
Simple business, notice that all Conference Commissioners are putting in place similar provisions
The TV Contracts dictate that checks be cut as long as the Games are played ------- fans, bands, and cheerleaders have no impact on the TV Contracts
The Conference Commissioners care about the TV Contracts
Simple business, notice that all Conference Commissioners are putting in place similar provisions
The TV Contracts dictate that checks be cut as long as the Games are played ------- fans, bands, and cheerleaders have no impact on the TV Contracts
The Conference Commissioners care about the TV Contracts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:24 am to labamafan
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What does playing a conference only schedule actually do?
The correct and only answer is $$$. It allows the conferences full control of scheduling and other variables that may arise as the season moves on.
Aside from the real reason, a byproduct will be a tougher SEC schedule and more controversy when an SEC team(s) get preferential selection into the CFP over another less competitive conference champ with equal or better record.
For the SEC, I'd hope they'd throw out Divisions and work out a balanced set of games for fan interest and competitiveness. Then, put the 2 highest ranked from the CFP poll into the SEC CG.
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:12 am to SCgamecock2988
It does a few things.
1) Scheduling OOC games is a nightmare - even without covid. It will likely be impossible for the 2020 season.
2) If the SEC can pull it off safely, it will massively benefit them. The SEC obviously wins if other conferences also do conference only. The ACC will have like 1 competitive matchup. The Big 10 might have a few. The PAC 12 and Big 12 will have none and might as well scrap their seasons. The SEC will become one of the most desirable leagues for networks.
3) Notre Dame athletics will no longer exist.
1) Scheduling OOC games is a nightmare - even without covid. It will likely be impossible for the 2020 season.
2) If the SEC can pull it off safely, it will massively benefit them. The SEC obviously wins if other conferences also do conference only. The ACC will have like 1 competitive matchup. The Big 10 might have a few. The PAC 12 and Big 12 will have none and might as well scrap their seasons. The SEC will become one of the most desirable leagues for networks.
3) Notre Dame athletics will no longer exist.
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:14 am to SCgamecock2988
I'm think the "pros" in the meetings made these points for what a conference only schedule accomplishes:
1. Extra bye weeks increases flexibility to reschedule the most important conference games instead of having those extra weeks burned early by matchups against SW Tech State.
Also manes SEC alone is in charge of making those calls and plans to reschedule.
2. All teams have same standards for safety et al set by the conference
3. Mitigating uneven schedules if only some OOC games are cancelled
4. Getting out of paying for "rent a wins" while empty stadiums mean even more lost revenue
Eliminating distant travel in more cases than not (Notre Dame, Nevada, Kent St, Colorado St, Kansas St, Eastern Michigan, UCONN etc)
Sure there's more. Not saying these make it the right call but I'm sure they are the "pro" that came up in discussions.
1. Extra bye weeks increases flexibility to reschedule the most important conference games instead of having those extra weeks burned early by matchups against SW Tech State.
Also manes SEC alone is in charge of making those calls and plans to reschedule.
2. All teams have same standards for safety et al set by the conference
3. Mitigating uneven schedules if only some OOC games are cancelled
4. Getting out of paying for "rent a wins" while empty stadiums mean even more lost revenue
Eliminating distant travel in more cases than not (Notre Dame, Nevada, Kent St, Colorado St, Kansas St, Eastern Michigan, UCONN etc)
Sure there's more. Not saying these make it the right call but I'm sure they are the "pro" that came up in discussions.
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:17 am to PlateJohnsonIII
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PlateJohnsonIII
3) Notre Dame athletics will no longer exist.
Interesting YT video about this I saw last night.
ACC To ND - JOIN NOW
Posted on 7/11/20 at 11:39 am to Harry Morgan
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So tragic that the young men and women receive absolutely nothing in return. I mean, not even an education. Shame on those old white men
Typical for an a-hole Trumpf-tard to always go to a ridiculous extreme to make his stupid point
Before the Era of Billions getting pumped into College Athl Depts due to TV-Radio-Merchandising dollars the players got a Bachelor's Degree while the HC was lucky to make $150K per year
AFTER all those Billions have been pumped into the College Game, 70 HCs make at least $3Million per year, and those in the Top10 make over $6 million per year, while the players still get a Bachelor's Degree
An educated person can easily see that everyone involved in the 2 Revenue Sports has benefitted from the rising tide of CASH flowing into College Sports, EXCEPT the players
If everyone can benefit from the economic inflation from big money college sports, then the players should also benefit, it's not that the players get nothing, they don't get what is fair based on what they generate
A guy on the factory production line making Ford F-150s wants to get paid based on the current 2020 sale prices, not 1965 sale prices, with all the big money flowing into college sports a mere Bachelor's Degree is akin to 1965 benefits while the Coaches & Admins get 2020 salaries
Surely you can understand that, but since you are a no talent hack that was never great at anything, all you can do is want less fairness & equality for those that you deem different from you
Unfortunately, your attitude is typical for the majority group in America that deem themselves to be real Americans that deserve ideals like fairness & justice just because ------ while at the same time doing everything in their power to deny those ideals to those different than them, just because they are in the Minority and that's the easiest path to take
In a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY like we have here in America, we are supposed to extend those ideals of equality, fairness, and justice to all, no matter how few of those types exist, the true measure of a Representative Democracy is how fair & just we treat even the smallest minority among us
So not paying the CFB players fairly taps into some deep rooted issues we have here in America, it ain't about "do they get enough" and " go to the NFL if you want money", it's deeper than that
Posted on 7/11/20 at 12:15 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
So let's have your exact pay scale for players.
Does a AA or all Conference player make more than 2nd reamer? Seniors more than Freshman?
Are they gonna become employees and get a big fat 1099 at the end of the year?
What about P5 schools that don't make money in CFB? It happened to GT a few years ago.
What about title IX? You REALLY think your
Man Joe Biden is gonna go after it if he wins? Republicans have been the only party
that's challenged the legality of title IX
and this administration has actually deregulated parts of it.
Schools in the BIG and SEC could afford to double stipends within Title IX regulations when thing get back to normal
(don't forget that the majority of revenues at most big time schools come from gate reciepts and donations) I doubt most of the ACC,PAC 12 or BIG 12 could unless some serious budget cuts were implemented (I'm talking non CV years)
Does a AA or all Conference player make more than 2nd reamer? Seniors more than Freshman?
Are they gonna become employees and get a big fat 1099 at the end of the year?
What about P5 schools that don't make money in CFB? It happened to GT a few years ago.
What about title IX? You REALLY think your
Man Joe Biden is gonna go after it if he wins? Republicans have been the only party
that's challenged the legality of title IX
and this administration has actually deregulated parts of it.
Schools in the BIG and SEC could afford to double stipends within Title IX regulations when thing get back to normal
(don't forget that the majority of revenues at most big time schools come from gate reciepts and donations) I doubt most of the ACC,PAC 12 or BIG 12 could unless some serious budget cuts were implemented (I'm talking non CV years)
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:11 pm to RD Dawg
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So let's have your exact pay scale for players.
Does a AA or all Conference player make more than 2nd reamer? Seniors more than Freshman?
Are they gonna become employees and get a big fat 1099 at the end of the year?
What about P5 schools that don't make money in CFB? It happened to GT a few years ago.
What about title IX? You REALLY think your
Man Joe Biden is gonna go after it if he wins? Republicans have been the only party
that's challenged the legality of title IX
and this administration has actually deregulated parts of it.
Schools in the BIG and SEC could afford to double stipends within Title IX regulations when thing get back to normal
(don't forget that the majority of revenues at most big time schools come from gate reciepts and donations) I doubt most of the ACC,PAC 12 or BIG 12 could unless some serious budget cuts were implemented (I'm talking non CV years)
Dood it ain't rocket science
You don't have to call it a paycheck, simply call it an enhanced stipend like I have for 100 times on this site
All 85 guys on scholly get the SAME enhanced stipend, no worries about starter & backup and all that mess, the same way under the current system all 85 guys get the same full scholly & same access to meals, and make the stipend a part of the scholly just like Books & Supplies
Title IX has nothing to do with this, Saban makes $9 million per year yet there are no HCs of Women's Teams that also make $9million per year and I know for a fact that Title IX also governs Coaches, so explain how they "get away" with unequal spending on Coaching Salaries in this Era of Title IX?
The T9 crutch is a tired and dated excuse that's been thrown out there anytime the 2 Revenue Sports start asking about getting treated more fair wrt to money generated
The only schools that would pay the stipends are the ones that can afford it ----the P5 Schools plus ND & BYU
The schools without the budget & TV Deals don't have the money anyway so why worry about them
No one ever said everyone had to get paid, just those that generate the Revenues, CFB & MBB at the P5 Level
Instead of looking for an easy out and an easy way to say NO , why not engage your Brain just a little, be creative and find a way to make it happen
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:15 pm to saturday
It frees up weekends with 8 or 9 games and sec can make schedule adjustments as needed
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:17 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
I'm immune from Covid. It's a Schrute family trait.
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:24 pm to Dwight Schrute Reb
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I'm immune from Covid. It's a Schrute family trait
Great
Go to a CV19 party like that 30 year old did and see how that works out for you
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:26 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Already did. Life is good.
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:28 pm to SCgamecock2988
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What does playing a conference only schedule actually do?
Every game is a risk. Reduce your risk and prioritize the games that count.
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:41 pm to SCgamecock2988
If the SEC goes to a full conference schedule and plays marquis games every week, you'll see them come to the negotiating table in an even stronger position to demand more than the 300m/year they're currently discussing.
In 10 games we could conceivably have some combo of Bama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Florida every single week.
In 10 games we could conceivably have some combo of Bama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Florida every single week.
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:43 pm to Dwight Schrute Reb
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I'm immune from Covid. It's a Schrute family trait.
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:48 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Dood it ain't rocket science
It's far more complicated than your rants.
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You don't have to call it a paycheck, simply call it an enhanced stipend like I have for 100 times on this site
So why do you bring up the same subject continually? Do you actually
think you're changing anyone's mind?
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Title IX has nothing to do with this, Saban makes $9 million per year yet there are no HCs of Women's Teams that also make $9million per year and I know for a fact that Title IX also governs Coaches, so explain how they "get away" with unequal spending on Coaching Salaries in this Era of Title IX?
It has EVERYTHING to do with this dumbass.
Do ya think the COA stipends are for male athletes only?
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All 85 guys on scholly get the SAME enhanced stipend, no worries about starter & backup and all that mess, the same way under the current system all 85 guys get the same full scholly & same access to meals, and make the stipend a part of the scholly just like Books & Supplies
A COA stipend is for expenditures at SPECIFIC schools and each school has their
own definition and formula for the COA stipend. So how in the world do you arbitrarily "double" it when their COA expenses have already been figured. It's basically an expense stipend in which every penny has to accounted for.If you've
ever had any type of professional employment (doubtful) then you'd know what I was talking about.
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The only schools that would pay the stipends are the ones that can afford it ----the P5 Schools plus ND & BYU
GT claimed they lost money in CFB a fees years ago. how are they gonna "afford"it those off years?
BTW,just TRY doubling the stipend for CFB and basketball players ONLY.You'll be in federal courts in 5 mins.
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why not engage your Brain just a little
If "engaged" yours a little and it's more than painful.
Stop with the "easy solution" bullshite.Sorry,there isn't one.
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 3:50 pm
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